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Originally Posted by rt123 View Post

@KixNGrins I know Deders is already helping you, sorry to jump in between.

Tell me if I am wrong, but you are having issues getting Windows 7 to install on your setup or there is more than that going on.? I tried to go through your previous posts, but it was confusing for me. If you don't mind, can you please tell me in short, what exactly is the issue you are facing. Just trying to see if I can be of any help to you. smile.gif

The main issue here is that the 950 pro is only really compatible in UEFI mode. When installed in MBR mode (usually by copying an installation over from another source) although it still works, the boot time is extended by about 45 seconds, during which the drive light flashes on and off in a very even pattern, about 4-5 times a second. Not normal drive activity.

For some reason something is stopping his board from getting much further than the initial setup screen when attempting a GPT install.

@KixNGrins

The Vbios like pretty much all firmware, will be separate from drivers. You should note that having the 980TI removed from the system whilst checking to see if its vbios is compatible with UEFI won't give you the info you want, although I probably could have been clearer in my instructions.

The Intel IGP should be UEFI compatible, mine is, it was the only way I could get a picture on my screen with CSM disabled.

Is that all the hardware that you have plugged into the mobo? no additional PCIe cards? It would be worthwhile to unplug everything including the 980TI, leaving just your CPU and Ram and 1 disk to try at a time. I would start with the 950 Pro. Mine was one of the first available in the UK so I doubt it's firmware is any more advanced than any other out there. It works fine with my board.

Set your primary display to Auto, CSM to Auto,

Set OS type in secure boot to UEFI capable, you can experiment with switching this off and see what works next time around

Also make sure the Keyboard and Mouse emulator in the USB configuration is enabled. You'll also want XHCI handoff enabled.

Have the Samsung NVMe file I linked you to ready on your USB. Boot from it with the UEFI prefix, be ready to manually load the Samsung driver when you get the opportunity. Let us know how you get on.
Edited by Deders - 1/27/16 at 2:50am
post #3412 of 5732
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Originally Posted by KixNGrins View Post

I appreciate any help from anyone, rt123. Thanks for responding. In short....as short as I can describe it...

My #1 issue is that I can't get Windows 7 to install on my new build. My goal is to have Win 7 64-bit installed on a Samsung 950 Pro NVMe M.2 512GB SSD on an ASUS Z170-Deluxe mobo, with the 950 installed in the M.2 slot of the mobo and it being my primary drive for OS and Apps. The caveat is that it must be UEFI to take advantage of both UEFI Bios and OS, and any other hardware. Pardon the tone, but I don't want my "new" build to be "Legacy" as much as I can (except the Win 7 thingy). Everything aside from that, that I've posted, is trying to figure out how to do it, and why I can't. Keep in mind, I'm a novice and haven't built a PC in 5 years, so technology has changed a little bit...

I need to deal with my DVD Win 7 install disk not having USB 3.0 drivers, and it also not having NVMe drivers. I chose a route to install to an interim SSD to load Win 7 and the USB 3.0 drivers. Then to install NVMe drivers, and then to clone "that" to the 950 M.2 drive. Maybe that's the wrong route? But I have this gut feeling that it's not the wrong route and I'm over-looking something.

From what I've learned so far and as end results goes is: What I install from must be preceded by [UEFI:] in the Boot Menu, and regardless of what SSD drive it goes to, it must end up as being partitioned as GPT. Maybe I'm wrong here...

When I try to install Win 7 from my UEFI Bootable USB (with UEFI and Launch CSM set to Disabled), I see a black screen that shows "Windows files installing" progress bar at the bottom, twice. Then it shows the "Windows is Starting" screen with the four animated colored dots joining. Then it reboots my PC, and changes my UEFI settings to CSM = Enabled.

My apologies for not making it any shorter, but that is where I'm at, in a nut-shell...

Again, I appreciate your reply and any help.
Kix


My basic system is (I have it stripped down): ASUS Z170-Deluxe, Intel i7-6700, G-Skill 32GB RAM (4x8G 3400MHz),.EVGA !000G PSU, 2x ASUS Blu-Ray ODRs, As far as my SSD's goes, I'm currently using a SanDisk Ultra II 960GB SSD and a SanDisk Ultra II 480GB SSD (in the interim). I removed the Samsung M.2 drive (I hope I don't lose another loose screw in the works when reinstalling).. On the sidelines, I have the 950 Pro NVMe M.2 and the EVGA GX 980 Ti GPU,to install

From whatI've learned,

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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

The main issue here is that the 950 pro is only really compatible in UEFI mode. When installed in MBR mode (usually by copying an installation over from another source) although it still works, the boot time is extended by about 45 seconds, during which the drive light flashes on and off in a very even pattern, about 4-5 times a second. Not normal drive activity.

For some reason something is stopping his board from getting much further than the initial setup screen when attempting a GPT install.

Thanks for the explanation guys. thumb.gif

@KixNGrins Here's a Win7 Ultimate ISO with XHCI drivers Slipstreamed.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7k26x4dNAO5VnhrU3N5cmY1c0U/edit?pli=1

You can use this ISO to install Win7 through USB on Skylake with Zero issues.
And here's something for the NVMe drivers. Read the OP
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/3rvoop/samsung_950_pro_nvme_ssd_windows_7_64/

Edit:- You should put the NVMe drivers on another blank USB & have it connected to the PC at boot time, just like Win7 USB. Or you can put em on a blank SSD.
Also, here's the tool I use to create bootable Win7 USB, I prefer it over Rufus. https://wintoflash.com/home/en/
Has some ads, but I like it better.

Edit2:- Hopefully by using this method, you don't need to mess around with various options in the BIOS.
Edited by rt123 - 1/27/16 at 3:55am
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Thanks for the explanation guys. thumb.gif

@KixNGrins Here's a Win7 Ultimate ISO with XHCI drivers Slipstreamed.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7k26x4dNAO5VnhrU3N5cmY1c0U/edit?pli=1

You can use this ISO to install Win7 through USB on Skylake with Zero issues.
And here's something for the NVMe drivers. Read the OP
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/3rvoop/samsung_950_pro_nvme_ssd_windows_7_64/

Edit:- You should put the NVMe drivers on another blank USB & have it connected to the PC at boot time, just like Win7 USB. Or you can put em on a blank SSD.
Also, here's the tool I use to create bootable Win7 USB, I prefer it over Rufus. https://wintoflash.com/home/en/
Has some ads, but I like it better.

Edit2:- Hopefully by using this method, you don't need to mess around with various options in the BIOS.

@KixNGrins

If you have the extracted NVMe driver you hould be able to put it in the root directory of the same USB drive once you have created it. You will still need to manually load it when you get the opportunity.. If this doesn't work the thread in the above link could help like rt123 helpfully points out.

With this image you should be able to leave the HXCI handoff and keyboard and mouse emulation set to off. Set the others as I have specified.
Edited by Deders - 1/27/16 at 4:16am
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Time to grab the fastest DIMMs I can find.
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Hi,

I will be travelling for work from 1/27(today) - early March. Time online will be limited, so won't be on forums much.

-Raja

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Got my Maximus VIII Formula system with custom WC loop up and running last night. Awesome motherboard in my experience so far. ( I know pics are garbage quality, I'll take better ones once I finish with cable management).
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Got my Maximus VIII Formula system with custom WC loop up and running last night. Awesome motherboard in my experience so far. ( I know pics are garbage quality, I'll take better ones once I finish with cable management).
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damn bro...

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/71423-asus-maximus-viii-extreme-motherboard-review-13.html

On the memory front, we were left a little bit disappointed. While the Maximus VIII Impact was able to run our Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-4000 memory kit at its full speed - and then some - simply by enabling the XMP Profile, the Extreme was not capable of running at DDR4-4000 at all. Now admittedly ASUS have only certified the Extreme for overclocked frequencies up to DDR4-3866, but the fact that the flagship model can't exceed any and all capabilities of its less prestigious siblings left a slightly bitter taste in our mouths. While the Impact certainly has a physical design advantage due to it only having two DDR4 slots and thus having shorter traces between the processor and memory, the fact that the Z170-PREMIUM - a full-sized model with four memory slots - also supports DDR4-4000 reflects poorly on the Extreme. While there is surely a way to achieve DDR4-4000 on this motherboard through extensive use of the vast number of memory-related manual settings, we were not able to accomplish this feat.
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On the memory front, we were left a little bit disappointed. While the Maximus VIII Impact was able to run our Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-4000 memory kit at its full speed - and then some - simply by enabling the XMP Profile, the Extreme was not capable of running at DDR4-4000 at all. Now admittedly ASUS have only certified the Extreme for overclocked frequencies up to DDR4-3866, but the fact that the flagship model can't exceed any and all capabilities of its less prestigious siblings left a slightly bitter taste in our mouths. While the Impact certainly has a physical design advantage due to it only having two DDR4 slots and thus having shorter traces between the processor and memory, the fact that the Z170-PREMIUM - a full-sized model with four memory slots - also supports DDR4-4000 reflects poorly on the Extreme. While there is surely a way to achieve DDR4-4000 on this motherboard through extensive use of the vast number of memory-related manual settings, we were not able to accomplish this feat.
There's a temporal aspect to the MBs release dates, but
Sometimes you need to take reviews with a large grain of salt. I've been working with this non-QVL GS TZ 4000 kit on the M8E. Yes, 3866 is optimal, but XMP (w/o auto optimized timings enabled) 4000 works just fine on the M8E even with all Auto settings (since that's likely what most users do ohno-smiley.gif )

XMP (XMP at 1.35V will throw a 55 on warm reboot occasionally, but not a cold boot?)


XMP 1T


Stock:



now on to tightening this up. My only concern is the VSA running at >1.3V
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Nvidia Tesla C-class 2 GTX Titan X Pascal (water cooled) GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 
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