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Originally Posted by iBruce View Post

So Windows 10 updated my microcode? Ok this is getting creepy. smile.gif
if you have W10 and it has been installed for several days, yes,,, but this updated MC will not show up in bios, only in W10. AID64 reports this (active MC) under "motherboard"> "CPUID"

what is that software you are taking pictures of showing SGX active? (you can use the W10 Snip tool?)
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post #3462 of 5761
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Originally Posted by Yuhfhrh View Post

Looks like it's on. I thought you said you were already on bios 1402?


I was, no change with 1402 immediately, but I believe the move to 1402 may have activated Windows 10 to update the microcode.


No other explanation is valid so, there ya go, hope this helps new Maximus users. GO ROG. thumb.gif


     
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post #3463 of 5761
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

if you have W10 and it has been installed for several days, yes,,, but this updated MC will not show up in bios, only in W10. AID64 reports this (active MC) under "motherboard"> "CPUID"

what is that software you are taking pictures of showing SGX active? (you can use the W10 Snip tool?)

The hardware ID software I was/am using that showed SGX disabled/unavailable and then 45minutes later showed it enabled and working properly is HWiNFO64 v5.12-2740.


Here ya go. thumb.gif



http://www.hwinfo.com/download.php
     
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post #3464 of 5761
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

if you have W10 and it has been installed for several days, yes,,, but this updated MC will not show up in bios, only in W10. AID64 reports this (active MC) under "motherboard"> "CPUID"

what is that software you are taking pictures of showing SGX active? (you can use the W10 Snip tool?)


AIDA64


     
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post #3465 of 5761
looks like you're set. sgx is on. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

The impedance change up there is probably like throwing dildos at a nun for the IMC (Sorry I'm in one of those moods)
says the guy with a new Impact !! cheers.gif
Edited by Jpmboy - 1/27/16 at 3:25pm
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post #3466 of 5761
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this gets tricky... bios MC may not be the MC used under windows since W10 will update the MC independently. My M8E is on MC 6Ah in windows with bios 1402, Bios is 6a. My x99 has two completely different versions. z170 will have a new MC update from INtel in the near future (we're told).

Yeah, I'm not sure what that file does. I just updated Win10 and it's still from October so no way it's doing something useful. Three ways I know you can check MC; AIDA which I think simply includes hex (the h part), HWInfo64 and registry.

eg.
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Yeah, I'm not sure what that file does. I just updated Win10 and it's still from October so no way it's doing something useful. Three ways I know you can check MC; AIDA which I think simply includes hex (the h part), HWInfo64 and registry.

eg.
should be straight forward - right? nah...
On x99 bios reports version 2, AID64 reports 36h. We went thru this some pages back regarding the p95 bug and in the R5E thread. thumb.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




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should be straight forward - right? nah...
On x99 bios reports version 2, AID64 reports 36h. We went thru this some pages back regarding the p95 bug and in the R5E thread. thumb.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




I think the file will over-write / is a fail-safe from Intel and updates your MC to newer version if the manufacturer has stopped providing updates.

The Windows mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll file contains MC 36 for that platform. The BIOS itself is 2D. I then looked for an ASUS Z68 example as they're old, the BIOS had MC 15 for Ivy while the Windows file has 1B and the SB matched at 28.

So I'd expect someone running Win10, Ivy on a Z68 asus board having 1B MC even though the BIOS had 15 - just like in your example.

15 Version 15 Date 08-07-2012
1B Version 1B Date 05-29-2014

Then if you'd manually update it yourself to say 1C it wouldn't do anything, you're already running newer (1C Version 1C Date 02-26-2015).

Meh, who knows. Sounds plausible at least but as long as everything works that's all I worry about biggrin.gif
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Anybody happen to get 16GB (4x4) at 4000MHZ on the M8E though?

Two sticks is no problem, but I seem to get posting problems around 3933 with 4 sticks, even though memtest is still passing short tests around 50% at that frequency. I can't seem to get 4 sticks to post at 4000MHZ at all.

No surprises there. I wouldn't recommend 4 DIMM kits for any Z170 MB at this point in time (1st generation DDR4). Reminds me of DDR3 back in 2007/2008. Seen M8H boards fail to post even with 4 sticks 3200MHz memory. Remove two and all is well.
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No surprises there. I wouldn't recommend 4 DIMM kits for any Z170 MB at this point in time (1st generation DDR4). Reminds me of DDR3 back in 2007/2008. Seen M8H boards fail to post even with 4 sticks 3200MHz memory. Remove two and all is well.

wut?

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