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No surprises there. I wouldn't recommend 4 DIMM kits for any Z170 MB at this point in time (1st generation DDR4). Reminds me of DDR3 back in 2007/2008. Seen M8H boards fail to post even with 4 sticks 3200MHz memory. Remove two and all is well.

4 sticks at 3866 is rock solid for me.
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4 sticks at 3866 is rock solid for me.
No idea where oppar gets his.her ideas from.
yeah - I had a TZ 4x4 3200c16 kit running at 3600c16 no problem on the M8E. Even an old ADATA 4x4 hynix 3300c16 (x99) kit ran 3466c16 happily. BUT, even a GS TZ 4000c19 2x4GB kit is problematic at 4000, nevermind 2 kits. I think Scone will have fun ion the Impact.
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Oppar has a hidden agenda and logic flew out the window sometime ago. (He has a different alias elsewhere)

Sounds like he's under the impression that all 4 DIMM kits are for X99 by referring to them as first gen, and aren't likely to work.

Even though we were literally only just taking about the T-Top layout.
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Oppar has a hidden agenda and logic flew out the window sometime ago. (He has a different alias elsewhere)

Sounds like he's under the impression that all 4 DIMM kits are for X99 by referring to them as first gen, and aren't likely to work.

Even though we were literally only just taking about the T-Top layout.

Would I have been better picking up a 16gb 4 dimm kit?

Due to me coming from Sandy I was always under the impression of 2>4 for stability.

Or is it negligible these days?
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Would I have been better picking up a 16gb 4 dimm kit?

Due to me coming from Sandy I was always under the impression of 2>4 for stability.

Or is it negligible these days?

Apparently some dimms are tuned specifically for z170. At least that's what it says on my Ripjaw V's box. I held out for them after seeing this instead of going for a set of Ripjaw IV's. It doesn't mean that all packs of 4 dimms are specifically for X99.

Having 4 dimms isn't as big a deal on Asus boards with T topology as it would be on a board without. The traces have been optimised for equal length from IMC to the chips, so the usual latency issue don't impede overclock potential.
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Originally Posted by llantant View Post

Would I have been better picking up a 16gb 4 dimm kit?

Due to me coming from Sandy I was always under the impression of 2>4 for stability.

Or is it negligible these days?

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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

Apparently some dimms are tuned specifically for z170. At least that's what it says on my Ripjaw V's box. I held out for them after seeing this instead of going for a set of Ripjaw IV's. It doesn't mean that all packs of 4 dimms are specifically for X99.

Having 4 dimms isn't as big a deal on Asus boards with T topology as it would be on a board without. The traces have been optimised for equal length from IMC to the chips, so the usual latency issue don't impede overclock potential.


GSKILL list all QVL on their website, some of the higher frequency kits will only have QVL for certain boards as we were discussing only yesterday. T-Topology will favour most users on Z170 given the kits available.
This doesn't mean two DIMM kits are bad, simply one may find similar (or slightly better in certain cases) results than with two with T-Topology.

The Impact on the other hand when pushing things is an absolute beast with memory. I've had the board in 5 minutes and already pushing through 4000mhz at command rate 1 in HCI with little input from myself. Looking at the ROG memory profiling, getting these things locked in tighter after trying a couple is also handed to you on a plate if the memory is capable.
Edited by Silent Scone - 1/28/16 at 3:23am
post #3477 of 5730
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Originally Posted by Yuhfhrh View Post

4 sticks at 3866 is rock solid for me.

Is this the same 4X4GB 4000MHz memory that runs fine at 4000MHz using 2X4GB? If so, then wouldn't you have been better off with 2X8GB 4000MHz memory?
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Originally Posted by llantant View Post

Would I have been better picking up a 16gb 4 dimm kit?

Due to me coming from Sandy I was always under the impression of 2>4 for stability.

Or is it negligible these days?

Actually, it's worse with Skylake. Asus boards costing less than say $200.00 (ATX Pro Gaming and Z170-A for example) have difficulty handling 2 sticks of 3200MHz memory above 3000MHz, some don't even reach that high. No, you don't want to recommend using 4 sticks for boards like these.
Edited by oparr - 1/28/16 at 5:11am
post #3479 of 5730
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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

Oppar has a hidden agenda and logic flew out the window sometime ago. (He has a different alias elsewhere)

Sounds like he's under the impression that all 4 DIMM kits are for X99 by referring to them as first gen, and aren't likely to work.

Even though we were literally only just taking about the T-Top layout.

"Oparr has a hidden agenda"

Not really, Oparr visits memory manufacturer forums from time to time.

"Sounds like he's under the impression that all 4 DIMM kits are for X99 by referring to them as first gen, and aren't likely to work."

Waste of time.
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Originally Posted by oparr View Post

"Oparr has a hidden agenda"

Not really, Oparr visits memory manufacturer forums from time to time.

"Sounds like he's under the impression that all 4 DIMM kits are for X99 by referring to them as first gen, and aren't likely to work."

Waste of time.

You can quote by pressing the Quote button, and then remove the text you do not wish to quote. Makes life easier for everyone. Similarly, it makes life easier if you go by your alias else where so people know who and what they are dealing with when engaging you.
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Originally Posted by oparr View Post

Actually, it's worse with Skylake. Asus boards costing less than say $200.00 (ATX Pro Gaming and Z170-A for example) have difficulty handling 2 sticks of 3200MHz memory above 3000MHz, some don't even reach that high. No, you don't want to recommend using 4 sticks for boards like these.

To give you another example of a waste of time, such as the above, this post shows for some reason you still don't understand the t-topology layout. High frequency kits and entry level motherboards - then recommending that users do not buy 4 DIMM kits on this basis with absolutely no findings to show for it is a prime example of someone wasting other peoples time.
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