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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

Is that all the hardware that you have plugged into the mobo? no additional PCIe cards? It would be worthwhile to unplug everything including the 980TI, leaving just your CPU and Ram and 1 disk to try at a time. I would start with the 950 Pro. Mine was one of the first available in the UK so I doubt it's firmware is any more advanced than any other out there. It works fine with my board.

Set your primary display to Auto, CSM to Auto,

Set OS type in secure boot to UEFI capable, you can experiment with switching this off and see what works next time around

Also make sure the Keyboard and Mouse emulator in the USB configuration is enabled. You'll also want XHCI handoff enabled.

Have the Samsung NVMe file I linked you to ready on your USB. Boot from it with the UEFI prefix, be ready to manually load the Samsung driver when you get the opportunity. Let us know how you get on.
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Originally Posted by rt123 View Post

@KixNGrins Here's a Win7 Ultimate ISO with XHCI drivers Slipstreamed.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7k26x4dNAO5VnhrU3N5cmY1c0U/edit?pli=1

You can use this ISO to install Win7 through USB on Skylake with Zero issues.
And here's something for the NVMe drivers. Read the OP
https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/3rvoop/samsung_950_pro_nvme_ssd_windows_7_64/

Edit:- You should put the NVMe drivers on another blank USB & have it connected to the PC at boot time, just like Win7 USB. Or you can put em on a blank SSD.
Also, here's the tool I use to create bootable Win7 USB, I prefer it over Rufus. https://wintoflash.com/home/en/
Has some ads, but I like it better.

Edit2:- Hopefully by using this method, you don't need to mess around with various options in the BIOS.
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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

@KixNGrins

If you have the extracted NVMe driver you should be able to put it in the root directory of the same USB drive once you have created it. You will still need to manually load it when you get the opportunity.. If this doesn't work the thread in the above link could help like rt123 helpfully points out.

With this image you should be able to leave the HXCI handoff and keyboard and mouse emulation set to off. Set the others as I have specified.

Ughh.... Multiple more attempts over the past couple 2-3 days with the same results. When Windows 7 gets to the screen where it says "Starting Windows" and the four animated balls are swirling around, it reboots my computer and automatically changes the Launch CSM setting to "Enabled". I'm beginning month 2 of trying to install Win7 properly...

I've stripped my hardware down to: case, Z170-D, CPU/cooler, PSU, 950 Pro NVMe SSD, a single slice of DIMM installed in A2 socket, and keyboard/mouse. No GPU, DVD's, other HDD/SSD's, etc. I've tried using several USB drives to install from.

To create the UEFI bootable USB, I've been using Rufus and it has been partitioning the drive as GPT. I've been putting the NVMe drivers (5 files) directly under the root directory of the USB. I tried to use WinToFlash instead of Rufus, but I didn't see any option to create GPT partition, only MBR. I used Advanced Tab and set the following: File System = FAT32 LBA, Partition Scheme = USB-HDD, CHS Policy = Std CHS, Boot Loader = Std. When checking the USB under Windows Disk Management, it is partitioned as MBR. I didn't try to install Win 7, because when I did this the first time on NVMe, it really wasn't UEFI and was very slow starting up and shutting down. But maybe with a UEFI bootable disk (first time wasn't), results would be different??? I am using the WIN7 Ultimate ISO file from the link provided.

Prior to booting to the USB, I have Primary Display = Auto, Secure Boot OS Type = Windows UEFI, Keyboard & Mouse Emulator = Disabled, XHCI Handoff = Disabled. I also set Launch CSM = Auto.

I appreciate the help everyone has offered, especially Dee37, Deders, and rt123. I'm not sure what I'm over-looking and it's getting me flustered. The 5 year old PC that I'm replacing, I've revamped it into a media server for my home theater, in 2 days... It wasn't this challenging 5 years ago. I apologize for venting. I'm beginning to suspect my Z170-D mobo.

When I try to make a USB using WinToFlash, is there some different setting I can use to make the partition GPT? If I'm booting using a UEFI USB this Win7 Ultimate load set, does it matter that it's partitioned as MBR? I know I could try it, but I also don't want to mess up my 950 Pro. I almost secure erased it, if you a few of you hadn't questioned me...

Best regards,
Kix
Edited by KixNGrins - 1/29/16 at 7:46pm
post #3542 of 5731
Damn Bro, this is sad & frustrating. sad-smiley-002.gif

I would try 2 more things & then give up

1) Try installing in MBR mode & see how it goes.
2) Maybe try installing without changing all those options that you have changed. Leave them on Auto & try GPT or MBR installation. (Whatever works)


If nothing works then just get Windows 10. Its wayyyyy better than Win 8, if that's the reason you were holding back. redface.gif
post #3543 of 5731
@KixNGrins

Yeah it's very frustrating when something like this happens. I'm thinking now that Win10 would be a better idea, especially now 1511 is out.

I can guide you though the pitfalls of the processes involved in getting it for free, but you'll want to do a fresh install of Win10 once you have confirmed that the upgraded version has activated with your hardware.

This way you'll have UEFI boot as well as more stable drivers. The upgrade process doesn't handle drivers that well.
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Damn Bro, this is sad & frustrating. sad-smiley-002.gif

I would try 2 more things & then give up

1) Try installing in MBR mode & see how it goes.
2) Maybe try installing without changing all those options that you have changed. Leave them on Auto & try GPT or MBR installation. (Whatever works)


If nothing works then just get Windows 10. Its wayyyyy better than Win 8, if that's the reason you were holding back. redface.gif

Appreciate the feedback. I mean this as a joke, but is Win 10 way better than Win 7? I never used Win 8 because I heard so many complaints, especially with the Start menu. I like Win 7 and Win 10 is new. Was hoping to wait a couple years to upgrade, and let others work on Win 10 SP1. smile.gif

I'm guessing that since you didn't mention replacing the mobo, that you don't think it's the issue (I don't know, so I'm only asking for an opinion)? I tried your #2 suggestion by hitting F5 (Default), and only adjusting Launch CSM = Auto. So, that kind of leads me to just trying the Win7 Ultimate in MBR.

Thanks again,
Kix
post #3545 of 5731
I'd try 10 before replacing the board. If the same issue occurs then it probably is the board. See my post above.

Given the choice between 10 and 7 in this day and age, I slightly prefer 10.
post #3546 of 5731
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Originally Posted by Deders View Post

@KixNGrins

Yeah it's very frustrating when something like this happens. I'm thinking now that Win10 would be a better idea, especially now 1511 is out.

Takes me back to a post I wrote last week... My last option is "capitulation".... Win 10 versus Win7. LOLOL
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I used to hate Win8 too & I still do, it deserves it.

But I'd switch from Win7 to Win10 in a heartbeat. It brings a new flavor to day to day use, since I have gotten bored of using Win7 for too long. Win10 retains the good qualities of Win7 & removes stupid Win8 stuff, while bringing newer interesting stuff to the table.

There is only 1 thing I don't like about Win10, its all the data collection/snooping around from Microsoft. Thankfully, there are tons of guides on the internet that tell you what to disable.


I am almost dead sure its not the mobo's fault here. Go Win10. Dx12 is coming too, if you are gamer, that's a must. thumb.gif
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I like to look on the bright side of things, so I guess the bright side is I've learned a lot in the past 4-5 weeks. I'm especially proud that while down-loading ISO's from the net and creating UEFI bootable USB's, I was able to figure out how to add a signature on this board with my components. biggrin.gif
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I love Windows 10!
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After reading these posts I'll admit my stupidity
I have to have CSM enabled to boot Win 7, been like this since day one, still it's a UEFI install and works fine without any issues, I thought this was normal Win 7 behavior, am I wrong?
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