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Silent Scone, I don't doubt your knowledge in any way and I don't doubt the truth of this explanation, either. But let me say this:

If somebody is able to build a machine from scratch and the thing boots, he or she either was very lucky or has proven basic knowledge, of that platform for that matter. At lest in my universe. Because likely >99.999 % of the people on this whole planet can't do that.

Further, from my years of professional experience with PCs I don't find it surprising, that someone with basic knowledge is not able to understand "bios speak". If you are lucky and the bios is more exhaustive than "Option A: This switch activates Option A.", it often seems that the cryptic telegram style of bios hints ("hint" often fits better than "explanation") is harvested right off the finger tips of the bios programmers themselves and most of the time lacks the *basic* principles of usability or even readability.

Now it seems to me that if someone with basic knowledge comes to this thread because he/she is helpless, some people here feel inclined just to answer with a synonym of "No, you are wrong.", maybe accompanied with a fact stated in that same cryptic telegram style used in the bios. Only after the helpless person gets sort of angry (because he/she repeatedly, but understandably, won't understand, because there is no actual explanation), some people are inclined to provide more info - accompanied by some - in my perspective unfair - remark about the little knowledge of the person asking the question. Because he/she already admitted that in the beginning by coming here and asking the question.

I totally understand that you and the other (highly experienced!) people here get sort of annoyed by answering the same stuff over and over again to those "lost causes". But maybe you would do better then not answering at all in some cases.
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The problem is svid is the same term in x99 and immediate follow up z170, but usage is complete opposite.

I have to wondered what this function called pre haswell? I had x58, x79 and z77, I don't remember they have this svid thingie. thumb.gif
    
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post #3693 of 5761
You are not making it any better, dansi. Take whatever these guys have to offer. It is worth it.
post #3694 of 5761
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Originally Posted by pegnose View Post

Silent Scone, I don't doubt your knowledge in any way and I don't doubt the truth of this explanation, either. But let me say this:

If somebody is able to build a machine from scratch and the thing boots, he or she either was very lucky or has proven basic knowledge, of that platform for that matter. At lest in my universe. Because likely >99.999 % of the people on this whole planet can't do that.

Further, from my years of professional experience with PCs I don't find it surprising, that someone with basic knowledge is not able to understand "bios speak". If you are lucky and the bios is more exhaustive than "Option A: This switch activates Option A.", it often seems that the cryptic telegram style of bios hints ("hint" often fits better than "explanation") is harvested right off the finger tips of the bios programmers themselves and most of the time lacks the *basic* principles of usability or even readability.

Now it seems to me that if someone with basic knowledge comes to this thread because he/she is helpless, some people here feel inclined just to answer with a synonym of "No, you are wrong.", maybe accompanied with a fact stated in that same cryptic telegram style used in the bios. Only after the helpless person gets sort of angry (because he/she repeatedly, but understandably, won't understand, because there is no actual explanation), some people are inclined to provide more info - accompanied by some - in my perspective unfair - remark about the little knowledge of the person asking the question. Because he/she already admitted that in the beginning by coming here and asking the question.

I totally understand that you and the other (highly experienced!) people here get sort of annoyed by answering the same stuff over and over again to those "lost causes". But maybe you would do better then not answering at all in some cases.

What surmises as basic is obviously subjective, if understanding SVID protocols from platform to platform is a major issue then it might be best to purchase from system integrators who can set these things up correctly. There is no need for bloated analogies, it's really that simple. That's the last post on the topic from me.
Edited by Silent Scone - 2/8/16 at 3:14am
post #3695 of 5761
I disagree with you. And I bet many would.
post #3696 of 5761
Thread Starter 
Give it a rest please guys. You are always welcome to start your own threads and take up debates in them. This thread is as the title states, and for a given region. If you are not from the region, take it elsewhere. Thank you.
post #3697 of 5761
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

Give it a rest please guys. You are always welcome to start your own threads and take up debates in them. This thread is as the title states, and for a given region. If you are not from the region, take it elsewhere. Thank you.

No need for this. I stated what I wanted to state, that's it. I just like to go with Spider-Man on this: with great power comes great responsibility.
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Originally Posted by pegnose View Post

No need for this. I stated what I wanted to state, that's it. I just like to go with Spider-Man on this: with great power comes great responsibility.

Expect I have no desire to be a super hero, or live by the ideals of one. The thread title makes things clear.
post #3699 of 5761
Just in case any one else is having this issue:

Since I have been having problems with the PCH being very hot on my Z170-WS I decided to remove the heatsink and see what the deal was. The screws holding it on were not secured fully and one was so loose it only took one turn to fall out, the thermal pad for the PCH itself showed no signs of good contact (no crush mark from the raised die) although the PLX chip looked like it was getting good contact. I replaced the pads with fujipoly extreme and tightened the screws down to snug, now my PCH idles at 21C instead of 60C.

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post #3700 of 5761
Do people just have Fuji Poly laying around? I normally only buy what I need lol. Looks like it was a contact issue then, glad you resolved it.
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