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PICNIC.
Then it must exist for the two shops that looked at it as well locally and Maingear who took it back and couldn't solve it either....it's hard tubed and the board didn't show it's hind quarters until it was so taking it back out was the last option and now the only one. Basically the BIOS will remember and adhere to any an all settings for about a week and then it just decides to change some back without notice. After that occurs the BIOS becomes unstable and hangs. I have tried every version, flashback, a new CMOS battery, weeded out RAM, Drives, GPU, PSU, Peripherals and the like. No infections and it occurs on a clean win 7, 8.1 or 10 install. Nice try though...and for the love of Cthulhu use PEBKAC instead if you are going to insult me rolleyes.gif

I don't see how loading optimized default and setting RAM manually at 2133 with no CPU or GPU overclock could possibly be user error on this board....I can't even get to trying to OC so trust me it is the board.
Edited by Thoth420 - 7/2/16 at 12:35pm
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Then it must exist for the two shops that looked at it as well locally and Maingear who took it back and couldn't solve it either....it's hard tubed and the board didn't show it's hind quarters until it was so taking it back out was the last option and now the only one. Basically the BIOS will remember and adhere to any an all settings for about a week and then it just decides to change some back without notice. After that occurs the BIOS becomes unstable and hangs. I have tried every version, flashback, a new CMOS battery, weeded out RAM, Drives, GPU, PSU, Peripherals and the like. No infections and it occurs on a clean win 7, 8.1 or 10 install. Nice try though...and for the love of Cthulhu use PEBKAC instead if you are going to insult me rolleyes.gif

I don't see how loading optimized default and setting RAM manually at 2133 with no CPU or GPU overclock could possibly be user error on this board....I can't even get to trying to OC so trust me it is the board.

remind me.. this is a rig you had a shop build for you.. and they will not fix/replace it?
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Update- after many hours of trying to get the pin bent back correctly I guess that I finally did. Thanls for the support.
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remind me.. this is a rig you had a shop build for you.. and they will not fix/replace it?

Yes I had them source the parts I wanted for a custom build and they will fix and or replace it however as you can see I am attempting to keep a specific theme and this is not the first time an ASUS board has ruined everything. All other hardware has been tested good aside the board so the problem is the def the board, what really bothers me was ASUS support wasting months because they can't admit they aren't perfect and pointing fingers at everyone from AMD to EK(yeah even EK...). I won't bother wasting time swapping it for another Deluxe or Z170-A etc. , the Gigabyte boards that are white seem to have their own issues and the only one they stock would cost me a bit more for features I don't need. This leaves me in a crappy position as far as choice for a board or ruin my theme.

Just the last straw with ASUS for me personally as they have screwed me a few times and their support never seems to be fast or courteous. I waited months for RMAs(most that came back either just as broken or more broken...once I just got blamed for bent pins when the board came that way and they were sent pictures)and that is just a joke compared to other vendors. I don't see how they manage to be so popular when they don't treat end users anywhere close to say EVGA or Logitech.
Edited by Thoth420 - 7/2/16 at 3:54pm
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Yes I had them source the parts I wanted for a custom build and they will fix and or replace it however as you can see I am attempting to keep a specific theme and this is not the first time an ASUS board has ruined everything. All other hardware has been tested good aside the board so the problem is the def the board, what really bothers me was ASUS support wasting months because they can't admit they aren't perfect and pointing fingers at everyone from AMD to EK(yeah even EK...). I won't bother wasting time swapping it for another Deluxe or Z170-A etc. , the Gigabyte boards that are white seem to have their own issues and the only one they stock would cost me a bit more for features I don't need. This leaves me in a crappy position as far as choice for a board or ruin my theme.

Just the last straw with ASUS for me personally as they have screwed me a few times and their support never seems to be fast or courteous. I waited months for RMAs(most that came back either just as broken or more broken...once I just got blamed for bent pins when the board came that way and they were sent pictures)and that is just a joke compared to other vendors. I don't see how they manage to be so popular when they don't treat end users anywhere close to say EVGA or Logitech.

Hello

The solution to this seems simple. Move to a different manufacturer. You will no longer need to waste your or others time with this continual whining.
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Yes I had them source the parts I wanted for a custom build and they will fix and or replace it however as you can see I am attempting to keep a specific theme and this is not the first time an ASUS board has ruined everything. All other hardware has been tested good aside the board so the problem is the def the board, what really bothers me was ASUS support wasting months because they can't admit they aren't perfect and pointing fingers at everyone from AMD to EK(yeah even EK...). I won't bother wasting time swapping it for another Deluxe or Z170-A etc. , the Gigabyte boards that are white seem to have their own issues and the only one they stock would cost me a bit more for features I don't need. This leaves me in a crappy position as far as choice for a board or ruin my theme.

Just the last straw with ASUS for me personally as they have screwed me a few times and their support never seems to be fast or courteous. I waited months for RMAs(most that came back either just as broken or more broken...once I just got blamed for bent pins when the board came that way and they were sent pictures)and that is just a joke compared to other vendors. I don't see how they manage to be so popular when they don't treat end users anywhere close to say EVGA or Logitech.

nah, bro - the shop is the dog here... they make you wait on a repair RMA? they should provide you a new board and get the RMA done on their own time. That's BS. Wouldn't use those guys again. You paid for a product/service which they have failed to provide a work-product from that functions for any purpose it seems. More likely the builder f'ed the build. Sure a faulty product can ship from any manufacturer, however, the builder bought it and failed to test it corrrectly before the build... again, bad (business) practice IMO.
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nah, bro - the shop is the dog here... they make you wait on a repair RMA? they should provide you a new board and get the RMA done on their own time. That's BS. Wouldn't use those guys again. You paid for a product/service which they have failed to provide a work-product from that functions for any purpose it seems. More likely the builder f'ed the build. Sure a faulty product can ship from any manufacturer, however, the builder bought it and failed to test it corrrectly before the build... again, bad (business) practice IMO.

I would agree but in their terms they said they do a 72 hour hardware test and frankly the issue doesn't manifest until approx a week after initial setup so they never got a chance to experience the problem as it was then in the process of being tubed and then they do a fresh OS deployment off the bench when it is finished for another 72 hours(this is only for systems with loops I would assume since they are now locked into place) and if there are no issues present they move along. Quite unfortunate for me but what makes the problem more frustrating was how ASUS support responded to not only me but the builder and the two shops I brought it to here when we all were able to replicate the same issue. Pinning down the exact cause as well has proven fruitless(in regard to if it is a flaw with the board and my config or just a lemon...thanks to ASUS support again) so it is more me not wanting to have to scrap my theme and go with something that looks like crap and options of alternatives being limited. I haven't seen the best reviews for the Gigabyte G1 white Z170 and that leaves me with no other option.

I have plenty of building experience just none with doing a water loop so I opted to have a shop do this build. It really wasn't them delaying anything more that we were trying to solve it without having to ship a heavy rig with rigid tubing back and forth if it wasn't necessary and I am in school so my time to troubleshoot is sporadic. I just find that ASUS boards have gone done in terms of QC as of late as well as the support being pretty terrible and it really bites because they are the company I am familiar with besides back when Intel made boards still. Gigabyte I always manage to have an audio issue on their boards no matter the devices attached. MSI, I have never used and I cannot find a board of theirs that fits my theme I like anyway. AsRock I quite like but same with the colors. EVGA I have heard very polarizing views on their boards and nobody on here seems to use them. I guess I feel stuck with no good option but to go with a different color theme completely or I guess get a black board but that really wasn't what I wanted.
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I would agree but in their terms they said they do a 72 hour hardware test and frankly the issue doesn't manifest until approx a week after initial setup so they never got a chance to experience the problem as it was then in the process of being tubed and then they do a fresh OS deployment off the bench when it is finished for another 72 hours(this is only for systems with loops I would assume since they are now locked into place) and if there are no issues present they move along. Quite unfortunate for me but what makes the problem more frustrating was how ASUS support responded to not only me but the builder and the two shops I brought it to here when we all were able to replicate the same issue. Pinning down the exact cause as well has proven fruitless(in regard to if it is a flaw with the board and my config or just a lemon...thanks to ASUS support again) so it is more me not wanting to have to scrap my theme and go with something that looks like crap and options of alternatives being limited. I haven't seen the best reviews for the Gigabyte G1 white Z170 and that leaves me with no other option.

I have plenty of building experience just none with doing a water loop so I opted to have a shop do this build. It really wasn't them delaying anything more that we were trying to solve it without having to ship a heavy rig with rigid tubing back and forth if it wasn't necessary and I am in school so my time to troubleshoot is sporadic. I just find that ASUS boards have gone done in terms of QC as of late as well as the support being pretty terrible and it really bites because they are the company I am familiar with besides back when Intel made boards still. Gigabyte I always manage to have an audio issue on their boards no matter the devices attached. MSI, I have never used and I cannot find a board of theirs that fits my theme I like anyway. AsRock I quite like but same with the colors. EVGA I have heard very polarizing views on their boards and nobody on here seems to use them. I guess I feel stuck with no good option but to go with a different color theme completely or I guess get a black board but that really wasn't what I wanted.

go with the AsRock.
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go with the AsRock.

Looking like my only option. I guess I can go primary black theme get a different chassis and use the white as the accent. Do they make a black dye that could look like the Black Oil from X-Files?
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Looking like my only option. I guess I can go primary black theme get a different chassis and use the white as the accent. Do they make a black dye that could look like the Black Oil from X-Files?

X-files theme... seems appropriate.
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Samsung 960 Pro 360Rad + Chiller Win 10 HWBOT OBT 
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7740X 7980XE ASUS Rampage Vi Apex 2x Nvidia Titan Xp SLi 
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G.Skill 3600c15 2x8GB kits Samsung 960 Pro, NVMe WD Raptor 1T Plextor SSDs Raid 0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
Plextor DVD/BR R/W (very) Custom Water Windows 10 Pro Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS 144Hz Ducky Corsair 1500i Microcool Benchetto 101 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate ears TF10s (IEMs) 
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i7 5960X i7 6950X Asus Rampage V Extreme 10 2 GTX Titan X Pascal 
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GSkill 3200c14 TZs 8x8GB @ 3400c13 Intel 750 NVMe 400GB 2x Plextor SSD 256 Raid 0 (Win 7) Samsung NVMe 950 Pro M.2 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Plextor 810 2x XSPC RX360 Koolance 380i D5 
CoolingOSOSOS
Aquaero 6 Windows 10 x64  Windows 7 Pro Linux Mint 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Seiki 50" 4K monitor (720P-2160i) 240-30Hz Das Keyboard Model S Pro Corsair AX1200 Case Labs SM8 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate Ears TF10 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
8700K ASUS Maximus X Apex GTX 1080 2x8 GB G.Skill 4400c19 
Hard DriveCoolingOSCase
Samsung 960 Pro 360Rad + Chiller Win 10 HWBOT OBT 
CPUCPUMotherboardGraphics
7740X 7980XE ASUS Rampage Vi Apex 2x Nvidia Titan Xp SLi 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
G.Skill 3600c15 2x8GB kits Samsung 960 Pro, NVMe WD Raptor 1T Plextor SSDs Raid 0 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
Plextor DVD/BR R/W (very) Custom Water Windows 10 Pro Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
ASUS 144Hz Ducky Corsair 1500i Microcool Benchetto 101 
MouseAudio
Steelseries Rival Ultimate ears TF10s (IEMs) 
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