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isn't it a bit 'dangerous' (well, more dangerous than even doing an OC on its own) to have the OC running 24/7 rather than when needed? eg cpu under full load with x264, heavy gaming,...

That's why you put all the power features back on after overclocking and the voltage on adaptive wink.gif
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what do you mean? Superkyle's guide (thats a lot easier to understand) makes no mention of anything like that. Your guide makes no mention of my board. The board listed is the "ASrock Z170 OC Formula", mine's the "Maximus VIII Formula". I guess i could always go the "easy" route to bios OC? and start with AI suite, note the values undo the oc and set the values in bios then stress test.
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what do you mean? Superkyle's guide (thats a lot easier to understand) makes no mention of anything like that. Your guide makes no mention of my board. The board listed is the "ASrock Z170 OC Formula", mine's the "Maximus VIII Formula". I guess i could always go the "easy" route to bios OC? and start with AI suite, note the values undo the oc and set the values in bios then stress test.

I misread and thought you had the Extreme. Asus mobo's don't have very different UEFI options so it should still apply smile.gif
Before overclocking you turn off Intel Speedstep, the C-states and put the voltage to manual to ensure stability. After your overclock is succesful you can turn Speedstep and the C states back on and set the voltage to adaptive. Don't forget to put in the voltage at which your chip was stable.

You could do that but I still recommend learning it yourself smile.gif
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I misread and thought you had the Extreme. Asus mobo's don't have very different UEFI options so it should still apply smile.gif
Before overclocking you turn off Intel Speedstep, the C-states and put the voltage to manual to ensure stability. After your overclock is succesful you can turn Speedstep and the C states back on and set the voltage to adaptive. Don't forget to put in the voltage at which your chip was stable.

You could do that but I still recommend learning it yourself smile.gif

I've always had bad experiences with adaptive for some reason. Under high load the voltage spikes to some pretty crazy levels. But I 100% agree that you NEED to overclock via bios. In fact, I'd argue that AI Suite 3 is completely ****** and for me it introduced strange delay in the interface as well as not keeping most of the changes persistent after reboot. It caused me so many headaches that it literally is more trouble to OC than bios is. I built my brother's system and used the 5 way OC on his and it came out with a ridiculously unstable OC. So again, do not trust your hardware with AI Suite's OC tools. The bios on these boards are pretty nice and intuitive. Learn them. You have an entire community here to help and you'll be better off for it with less headaches and more enjoyment
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isn't it a bit 'dangerous' (well, more dangerous than even doing an OC on its own) to have the OC running 24/7 rather than when needed? eg cpu under full load with x264, heavy gaming,...

Short version is: no it is not dangerous. Every PC I build for gaming for my own use I overclock till max the particular CPU / RAM / Mobo can do (usually takes me two - three weeks of only OCing, testing, tweaking...). Basically through those 2 - 4 weeks they run close to 24/7 100% load of Prime / OCCT and other high temp generators with only breaks when OC fails and they wait till I start another run with different settings. My last rig is now 9 years old... q9550 2.8@4ghz. I am now overclocking my 6700k new build.

Look at it this way If something fails due to OC it means it was a weak link and it is better if it fails in first 2 weeks of ownership when it you are not fully deployed and potentially not too reliant on the HW and your data is still not there as you had no chance to build your usage yet. Also at least in EU it is very easy to replace faulty HW in first few weeks from purchase when it is a longer process in few months. So by hammering your hardware you are ironing all problems which might manifest much later if you do not do it straight away.

Finally the CPUs are build to work 24/7 365/year. They really do not care. If you provide them with sufficient cooling and do not go silly with voltage they will outlive their practicality overclocked or not.

Just found my first 24/7 fully stable settings... and switched them to adaptive and retested everything again. What spike of vcore are you experiencing, in what situations? I have absolutely rock solid results and no spikes?

EDIT:

Something that I learnt and for example the TweakTown guide does not mention is that once you find your stable CPU settings and move on to RAM ocing you might and most likely will need to bump vcore to stabilize RAM at more aggressive TRCe timings / speeds. In my case I had 4.6 ghz 5h OCCT + 12h x264 stable at 1.34 but I need 1.376 vcore to get it stable with only TRCe tightened to max.
Edited by sebna - 7/9/16 at 1:55pm
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I don't have time for a month of testing. I need the system ready as fast as possible to do my video editing.
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I don't have time for a month of testing. I need the system ready as fast as possible to do my video editing.

Get a Dell, HP or Lenovo and forget about overclocking. It'll be cheaper too.
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Prebuilt systems? Never in my life, crap every single one of them performance, cooling and upgrade wise. Doesn't fit my needs either. Besides i wasn't asking about a prebuilt system.
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Prebuilt systems? Never in my life, crap every single one of them performance, cooling and upgrade wise. Doesn't fit my needs either. Besides i wasn't asking about a prebuilt system.

Well, from an enthusiast perspective, using AI Suite to overclock an M8F is just as crappy. You didn't see that coming? LOL!
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I have to start somewhere with learning. If you've got some YouTube videos or something overclocking via bios with similar (or identical) hardware, by all means send the links via pm. I'm all in for learning.
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