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post #4781 of 5785
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Originally Posted by mrgnex View Post

That's why you put all the power features back on after overclocking and the voltage on adaptive wink.gif

That overclocking methodology makes no sense whatsoever. If you aren't going to stress test using the same settings you'll be using 24/7 then what have you really achieved? Probably explains why we see so many stories like...."I ran (favorite stress app) for N hours without incident but (favorite game) crashed after playing for only.....".
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Originally Posted by mrgnex View Post

That's why you put all the power features back on after overclocking and the voltage on adaptive wink.gif

That overclocking methodology makes no sense whatsoever. If you aren't going to stress test using the same settings you'll be using 24/7 then what have you really achieved? Probably explains why we see so many stories like...."I ran (favorite stress app) for N hours without incident but (favorite game) crashed after playing for only.....".
Actually you should always begin your testing using manual voltage. When adaptive voltage sees a "virus load" such as prime 95 it will artificially increase voltage above the set voltage in bios. This voltage will not be applied otherwise so if you are doing all testing using adaptive then you are way more likely to find stability issues in games.


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Well if any of you bios experts is willing to do pm me a bios oc guide for 'dummies' please do. System hardware is in sig under 'project Phoenix'. Next to heavy gaming the main other usage will be x264 based video encoding with sessions easily lasting 6-12h at a time (where x264 usually is known to pull 100% cpu load). Please use pm or email option. Don't want to clutter this thread up with a dummy guide. Unless one of you is located in or near belgium and is willing to take a trip and do it yourself :-)
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post #4784 of 5785
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Certainly as there is always more to learn. Obviously not as much as you telling a guy new to overclocking to start stress testing on adaptive voltage without knowing the voltage required to run his chip at any given frequency but sure whatever floats your boat buddy wink.gif


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You aren't very skilled at rebuttals either. Doesn't take much to see that you created a straw man out of thin ear. Waste of time.
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Well if any of you bios experts is willing to do pm me a bios oc guide for 'dummies' please do. System hardware is in sig under 'project Phoenix'. Next to heavy gaming the main other usage will be x264 based video encoding with sessions easily lasting 6-12h at a time (where x264 usually is known to pull 100% cpu load). Please use pm or email option. Don't want to clutter this thread up with a dummy guide. Unless one of you is located in or near belgium and is willing to take a trip and do it yourself :-)

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index.html this is all you need plus my comment about RAM ocing from my previous post in this thread.

But, with your approach I would not OC. OC needs time or you will end up with unstable machine. I mean many people do quick OC and then their PCs restart randomly, and their windows and apps become slowly corrupted over time which is even worse as it is hard to notice but causes even more restarts and slow downs and wasted time.

Cutting corners is not what you want with OC.

If you want a quick variant opt just for CPU OC. If you have a good sample and you are lucky and you do not care for lowest vcore possible you can have it fully stable in 24h and be done with it. But as you will be doing it for the first time might be 2-3 days which is not that extreme anyway.

Oparr - adaptive is not the way to OC your CPU.... superkyle is right. It can be done but it would be for more experienced users and it is still a waste of time as it is not the fastest way.
Edited by sebna - 7/9/16 at 11:52pm
post #4786 of 5785
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Originally Posted by superkyle1721 View Post

Actually you should always begin your testing using manual voltage. When adaptive voltage sees a "virus load" such as prime 95 it will artificially increase voltage above the set voltage in bios. This voltage will not be applied otherwise so if you are doing all testing using adaptive then you are way more likely to find stability issues in games.


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That's why I said he should put it to adaptive AFTER overclocking wink.gif
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post #4787 of 5785
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I have to start somewhere with learning. If you've got some YouTube videos or something overclocking via bios with similar (or identical) hardware, by all means send the links via pm. I'm all in for learning.

It's ok to learn with software but as another user stated once you see what OC it gives you take note of the voltage, states, freq, etc. (I would take a pic of every single BIOS menu settings for reference). Then you can go into the BIOS and apply those settings manually which is very easy and then you can abandon the software. Also while I and plenty of others think of software to OC as junk or bad that doesn't mean it is dangerous. AI Suite may suck as software but it has never in my experience caused damage to hardware just might see a BSOD or a conflict with other software etc. and thus why most people avoid it as they see it as bloatware and just work out of the BIOS. In the end you should stay in your comfort zone. thumb.gif

I also want to extend an apology to the users in the this thread(less Raja@ASUS) for being so abrasive and negative just seems every time I have an issue with a mobo it is ASUS and moreso in the past few years but that is not anyone in the this threads fault. To be clear however my shop is not the problem as they built a custom system and were not getting any answers from ASUS. They have pre set configs that you can customize but I wanted a chassis they did not carry along with a Z170 white mobo and a few other pieces of hardware they didn't have in house like my Intel SSD. IF this was one of their 9 pre configs then it would be a different story. The board was not one they carry in house however they have a business agreement with ASUS(as about 3 out of the 4 boards they have to choose from are ASUS) and were aghast at how difficult it was to get support for my Deluxe just because they didn't order them in a large batch. I just have reached the point of frustration since I love my rigs theme and look and now probably have to abandon it because well frankly end of the day no matter what you want to think the ASUS Z170 Deluxe was rushed to market and with a 300 dollar price point that is pretty unacceptable. I am hardly the minority when it comes to issues with this board so I do not understand why ASUS has to take such a tight lipped stance. If there is an issue with the skylake cpu or the z170 chipset overall then all they are guilty of is trying to be first to market with a large selection of new boards which is understandable. I just wish the board showed its rear before it was tubed in as that is the major hangup and time sink dragging this out.
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I'll start building over the next few days now that the ram had arrived. I noticed in a few videos the bios has a ez tuning wizard. Would that be a better place to start? From my understanding it's pretty similar to the AI suite, but at the bios level.
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I'll start building over the next few days now that the ram had arrived. I noticed in a few videos the bios has a ez tuning wizard. Would that be a better place to start? From my understanding it's pretty similar to the AI suite, but at the bios level.

The bios also has preset overclocks but I've never really heard of anyone use them and the one time I gave them a try it applied way too much voltage and another one of the settings were completely unstable. Overclocking manually is easy. Fact is half the options you never even touch. Just play with multi and core voltage and you should be able to get to 4.6GHz like that alone. Sometimes a little tweaking other settings to get higher but I got my brothers 6600K to 4.7GHz easy just doing multi and core voltage. Could have went higher but didn't want to spend much time tweaking. Hadn't tried my 6700K yet but I'm sure it'll be very similar
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6700k at 4.7 and a good voltage is a good unit already. Not every out there will do it.
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