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Well any 4.8G sold by silicon lottery will do 4.9G stable if you delid it and put under water smile.gif
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Well any 4.8G sold by silicon lottery will do 4.9G stable if you delid it and put under water smile.gif

That's not true, unless you count 1.45v and up acceptable, or your end-all test for stability is passing ROG Realbench for actually just 1 hour.

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Well any 4.8G sold by silicon lottery will do 4.9G stable if you delid it and put under water smile.gif

Given that the guaranteed voltage was ~1.424 for 1 hour of a medium-hardish difficulty test, you might need ~1.44 for solid 4.8 and ~1.51 for 4.9 sooo.. not really.

Darkwizzie got to 4.85 @1,4v with 4.8ghz listed 6600k but that's not the guaranteed experience. As temps are already low (non-delidded on air ~62c at 1.4v with my ambients with HT off) you probably won't get miraculous stability when lowering them some more with water and delid. That will no longer drop your chip from 90c to 60c - it's like 62c to 48c because the delta-t is much lower and there's nowhere near as much room to make gains.

Who wants to get a gem of a chip, top 1-5% and then run it at 1.5v 24/7? Not me, at least
Edited by Cyro999 - 10/15/15 at 9:03pm
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Voltage scaling sucks around 4.7+ 4.9 is gonna be harder than that.

There might be a few chips that will do 4.9 at 1.45v set to bios but its gonna be rare. I still have to test my best chips since i been dead for a week but so far 4.9 seems like a different beast than 4.8 all together.

FYI max reccommended voltage was 1.45v for water and 1.5v for phase from one of the guides i read.

Max recommended temp was 82c on water. -15c on phase.

Personally i am not adding more than 1.45v on water even for quick tests.

Also 5.2ghz is easy on phase at 1.47 or so if anyone is curious.
Edited by tatmMRKIV - 10/15/15 at 9:30pm
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Well I don't know what you are thinking about when talking about "under water". I'm not talking about some poor quality custom loops. I'm talking about high end ones.
My custom loop + delid dropped temps of my 4790k by about 30C. That's with 1.35V.
With 1.35V max temps are about 60C @real bench.
So, I bought a chip 5G + 1.325V and I'm doing 5.1G + 1.35V 8 hours RB stable, 1 hour OCCT:CPU large data set stable.

I believe that that could work for 6700K as well however I haven 't tested it.
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I think actual effects on clockspeed with respect to better cooling is overrated. I had ideas of testing this kind of stuff but I am so burnt out, I don't even.

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post #267 of 323
Under water is any watercooling.
Smarty pants


If 1.5 is max safe voltage under phase cooling i dont see how you think thats safe for water.

If you dont have a 6700k you should just bite your tongue. These are different chips than 4790k
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Its not like it matters first batches are always terrible overclockers anyways

are they? I got one of the very , very 1st and well happy with what it can do. In fact, after looking at some others on here that got theirs later, I was thinking maybe the first jumpers were given good ones as for them to shout out appraisals thumb.gif
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its hard to imagine it could get any worse.

no 4.9ghz daily chips out in the wild yet.

my buddy who helps me with LN2 and had been doing extreme OC since I guess about 06 was the one who told me to steer clear of first batches, when I told him I was binning 6700Ks.
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its hard to imagine it could get any worse.

no 4.9ghz daily chips out in the wild yet.

my buddy who helps me with LN2 and had been doing extreme OC since I guess about 06 was the one who told me to steer clear of first batches, when I told him I was binning 6700Ks.

Maybe it was then, or still ? But if I was to sell something, I would want it storm the market, ' Its great, better get one, the best in the world. '

Ive used mine at 5.0ghz for over a week - normal daily use, with no hiccups, but with a Aida64 stress, which is mild compared to others it FAILS tongue.gif

I was gonna try and fine tune , but nah, the vtts gives me the shakes biggrin.gif
Edited by ladcrooks - 10/16/15 at 8:37am
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