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if you're on a 4790k, iirc according to anandtech, it seems to be what? 5%? Skylake isn't a worth while upgrade for the price if you're currently on one.

I'm on a 4770k with 4.5ghz ceiling when using HT. IPC gains for x264 video encoding are around 11-12% (most stuff a tiny bit lower) and looks like it's very likely to get a chip that clocks a few hundred mhz higher, too. ~15% gains plus or minus a few percent in 1 tock is not as awful as some people make it out to be. It's exactly what we expected for years now. It's a pretty crap expectation but it is what is it ~ Monopoly. Could have been a lot worse, knowing Intel - and it would have been the only CPU available, knowing AMD.
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Well...


There is definitely some skepticism with the way DF were testing. But I do think they produced a much better way of showing the performance difference with frame times instead of some static charts that only shows avg., min and max fps with zero actual gameplay?

So, yeah.
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Well...


There is definitely some skepticism with the way DF were testing. But I do think they produced a much better way of showing the performance difference with frame times instead of some static charts that only shows avg., min and max fps with zero actual gameplay?

So, yeah.

Please bear in mind that tests above were on 1080p. On 1440p and 4k Skylake and 4790k are much closer to each other than on 1080p.

Truth is for gaming you don't need to upgrade 4790k at least for 2-3 more years. CPU is last to upgrade from my experiance to gaming and you will probably upgrade GPU two times till then. Most games are more and more GPU dependent than CPU nowadays.

Also consoles will hold games for PCs for some time, since multiplatforming is the way to go for developers right now for maximum profits.

If somebody is only gaming and have 4790k there is absolutely no point in getting Skylake. Before games will need full power of 4790k you will have new Intel CPUs already leaving behind Skylake.

If you didn't upgrade to 4770 or 4790k, Skylake is good option. But from 4790k to Skylake for gaming is absolutely pointless.

That is my opinion smile.gif.
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Please bear in mind that tests above were on 1080p. On 1440p and 4k Skylake and 4790k are much closer to each other than on 1080p

That's because the GPU's that you're viewing for 1440p/4k tests are not powerful enough to keep FPS up to the point where either CPU is challenged.

If Haswell can do 80fps and Skylake can do 90fps, you will see very little difference when your game is cranked up at 4k with MSAA at 50fps.
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Before games will need full power of 4790k

Many games today, even 5 year+ old games are CPU bound on Haswell and Skylake. GPU's leapt forwards a LOT faster than CPU's did, making this especially the case with games that are not both graphically demanding and brand new.
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post #105 of 122
You're both right! smile.gif

I only find Skylake interesting because of the benchmarks, they're really neat! biggrin.gif
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you probably need that 10% speed increase that 4790k -> 6700k allegedly offers on +60Hz 1080p/1440p displays. On my 1440p 60Hz/3570k 4.5GHz rig the CPU bottleneck isn't nowhere near as bad as to drop my framerate under 60fps in TW3.
Edited by Klocek001 - 8/22/15 at 6:08am
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In 15 benchmarks the 4790k(ddr3 1.6ghz) beats the 6700k(ddr4 3.0GHz): youtube.com/watch?v=NoFzi3WdNZo&list=PLC85l4CwqZZBGSYnXRv0d3nUzKP70CXMA thumb.gif
Edited by andreluiz - 10/17/15 at 1:29pm
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post #110 of 122
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Originally Posted by benbenkr View Post

Well...


There is definitely some skepticism with the way DF were testing. But I do think they produced a much better way of showing the performance difference with frame times instead of some static charts that only shows avg., min and max fps with zero actual gameplay?

So, yeah.

Compare... a 4790k of the lying DigitalFoundry (youtu.be/4sx1kLGVAF0?t=1m2s) vs a Real benchmark of 4790k
(youtu.be/S0uDzU8KTiQ?t=7m35s), and note that this Real result exceeds the 6700k OC.
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