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Originally Posted by Chipfire View Post

OK cool I have never had cl pro but it seems lots of people use it very successfully.
So you delidded a 4790K? what temp delta did you get? I have one but only dellidded my 4770K.
I like CL pro cuz you use far less paste than with cl ultra. I bought my cl pro a long time ago and I still have it. I also like the way it spreads. Also it doesn't dry overtime as cl ultra.

Delta T is usually around 10-15C, and around 3-5C if you are doing "direct die" cooling.

Like I said, my cpu is at 5100MHz, 1.35v set in bios, and max temps I'm getting in realbench H264x10 are max 60C. That's pretty low.... thumb.gif
post #492 of 821
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

I like CL pro cuz you use far less paste than with cl ultra. I bought my cl pro a long time ago and I still have it. I also like the way it spreads. Also it doesn't dry overtime as cl ultra.

Delta T is usually around 10-15C, and around 3-5C if you are doing "direct die" cooling.

Like I said, my cpu is at 5100MHz, 1.35v set in bios, and max temps I'm getting in realbench H264x10 are max 60C. That's pretty low.... thumb.gif

I thought it was the other way around, that cl pro would dry over time unlike ultra. Confusing.
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Originally Posted by Nils00 View Post

I thought it was the other way around, that cl pro would dry over time unlike ultra. Confusing.

I've never had CLU dry out on me over the years.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgIQQcUSDM
Search on google and see the results..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgIQQcUSDM
Search on google and see the results..

I have personal experience with dozens of processors that say otherwise, and you're showing a youtube video with the worst like/dislike ratio I've seen. tongue.gif

None of my Ivy or Haswell ever dried out after delidding.
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I have personal experience with dozens of processors that say otherwise, and you're showing a youtube video with the worst like/dislike ratio I've seen. tongue.gif

None of my Ivy or Haswell ever dried out after delidding.
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Originally Posted by Eeyore888 View Post

So I tried this on my FX-6100 with the stock cooler from my FX-8350... The initial results were amazing! Great temps! Had it at 1.45v and was only hitting 57c!!!

After a month of use, I started noticing degradation. Then all OC attempts failed in overheating. So I decided to remove the TIM and try another cooler... This next part I nearly puked out of fear for what I had done... While trying to remove the heat sink, the TIM had FUSED the copper to my CPU heat spreader!!! I did not know this and applied a little extra elbow grease which resulted in my ripping the damn CPU from the mobo socket!!! I about cried!!! The only way to separate the heatsink from the CPU was with a chisel!!! I am so thankful I did not try this on my main rig...
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Originally Posted by justanoldman View Post

That is normal, I use CLU a lot, and it will harden between the IHS and your cooler, but not between the die and IHS. It can be removed from the die easily, but removing it from the IHS and cooler takes metal polish, a roll of paper towels, and some time.
also read: http://www.overclock.net/t/1313179/official-delidded-club-guide/15330_30#post_19644142

Well It happened to me as well. It was metal to metal contact. Never happened to me with die-metal contact.
Also this thread is nice : http://www.overclock.net/t/1351984/coollaboratory-liquid-ultra-vs-liquid-pro-vs-phobya-liquid-metal/0_30
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Originally Posted by PCWargamer View Post

Cool that you tested this tw33k. I have used both TIMs myself to see how they worked in my system. For my system I had PRO better than Ultra by 1-3C. Did you do the test multiple times in case it was just one application being better than the other the time it was done? I know I do not apply TIMs perfectly everytime I try and it would be great to know if your results were from 5-10 applications with highs and lows for each TIM to better account for mounting issues.

Lots of the guys on the delidding thread think PRO is better than Ultra too, so if you could get a good case of mounting samples showing that Ultra is better it might spark some additional testing on other systems too.
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Originally Posted by Hokies83 View Post

Me to i found pro 2- 5 c better then ultra.

Guess it depends on the APP.
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Originally Posted by zalbard View Post

Pro has better conductivity. If applied properly it performs a bit better.
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Originally Posted by un-nefer View Post

I too find Pro performs better then Ultra - but not as much as you - only ~2C difference for me.

But I find Ultra easier to work with and clean, so some still may prefer to use it instead of Pro, even though it seems to perform ~2C worse.

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post #497 of 821
I just bought a 6600k and Corsair H105, should I delid if I want to try for 4.7ghz 24/7... I have run 4.8ghz 2500k for 2 years now.

Also, has Intel ever given a reason as to why they don't use better TIM? Just doesn't make sense to me, its a good company... I am scared to delid, never had to with my sandybridge...
    
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Originally Posted by caenlen View Post

I just bought a 6600k and Corsair H105, should I delid if I want to try for 4.7ghz 24/7... I have run 4.8ghz 2500k for 2 years now.

Also, has Intel ever given a reason as to why they don't use better TIM? Just doesn't make sense to me, its a good company... I am scared to delid, never had to with my sandybridge...
Well they don't want to sell you te best product possible.
....they need to sell you the next gen...
.......if yo had a super cpu with no "issues" they there would be no reason for you to buy the next gen...
...........worse profit for them....
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PS it's not just about the paste they use but also about the black glue they use to glue the ihs. It adds the thickness to the thermal paste thus increased temps.
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^ what he said. even swapping paste to kryonaut. if you reseal with that black sili it won't end up helping much.
I have a chip I am sending out to be delidded AGAIN because I bought it someone had sealed it back after doing kryonaut.

My guess is they don't really take into account the additional height the black sili adds. and the sides are too tall. causing a gap between core and lid
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Originally Posted by tatmMRKIV View Post

^ what he said. even swapping paste to kryonaut. if you reseal with that black sili it won't end up helping much.
I have a chip I am sending out to be delidded AGAIN because I bought it someone had sealed it back after doing kryonaut.

My guess is they don't really take into account the additional height the black sili adds. and the sides are too tall. causing a gap between core and lid
By the way, how are your chips from SL and that guy from Romania doing?
Which are getting better results?
Afaik that guy is just selling max "5G boot" or something like that and SL is selling "4.8G 1H RB". I wonder what is more relevant in terms of stable OC for 24/7 use(under water).
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