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My friend is also debating whether he will go X99 or Z170 for GAMING / LITTLE RENDERING / EVERYDAY USE. I have decided to go X99 route with 5820K because I love to game and I'm doing some rendering too but lately many people trying to convince me into Z170 platform and 6700K CPU, the newest platform, more motherboard features and that i7 6700K is just slightly slower than 5820K in rendering times but waaay faster in single core performance...
    
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My friend is also debating whether he will go X99 or Z170 for GAMING / LITTLE RENDERING / EVERYDAY USE. I have decided to go X99 route with 5820K because I love to game and I'm doing some rendering too but lately many people trying to convince me into Z170 platform and 6700K CPU, the newest platform, more motherboard features and that i7 6700K is just slightly slower than 5820K in rendering times but waaay faster in single core performance...

Single core "way" faster? When I read your post you make it seem like the IPC on skylake is miles ahead of Broadwell.
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Ok man. It is NOTICEABLY FASTER they say...

But in this video they are pretty close
    
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I just wanted to make sure since I typically recommend the 5820k over the 6700k. But, I haven't been following this stuff and close lately and didn't want to be giving bad advice smile.gif
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Ok man. It is NOTICEABLY FASTER they say...
But in this video they are pretty close

6700k may be noticeably faster in a badly multithreaded game like arma without overclocking but slower in properly multithreaded games
if you get a decent oc out of it ~4.5ghz the difference in games with bad threading will become unnoticeable while in programs with good threading the 5820k will have a large advantage


here the 5820k is ~20% faster while rendering x264
unfortunately they changed gpu in there reviews so game performance is not comparable
http://pclab.pl/art65154-33.html
http://pclab.pl/art60046-24.html

x264 transition 1
5960x@4.7GHz =213
5820k@4.5ghz =167.1
6700k@4.7GHz =143.1
6600k@4.7GHz =123.3
9590@5GHz =100.3
8350@4.7GHz =94.4

x264 transition 2
5960x@4.7GHz =103.4
5820k@4.5ghz =75.5
6700k@4.7GHz =61.1
6600k@4.7GHz =51.4
9590@5GHz =48.9
8350@4.7GHz =46
Edited by Dasa - 2/5/16 at 12:27pm
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I would rather have x99. If you're the type of person that doesn't upgrade often, in 2 or 3 years you could buy the new 10 core and be done... assuming z170 won't get more than 6 core cpus.
 
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My friend is also debating whether he will go X99 or Z170 for GAMING / LITTLE RENDERING / EVERYDAY USE. I have decided to go X99 route with 5820K because I love to game and I'm doing some rendering too but lately many people trying to convince me into Z170 platform and 6700K CPU, the newest platform, more motherboard features and that i7 6700K is just slightly slower than 5820K in rendering times but waaay faster in single core performance...

Please explain to me the more
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I would rather have x99. If you're the type of person that doesn't upgrade often, in 2 or 3 years you could buy the new 10 core and be done... assuming z170 won't get more than 6 core cpus.

This. i CANNOT wait for the new ones to drop.biggrin.gif
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There is a need for an explanation ? If you meant "more motherboard features" than I can assume that they are thinking about M.2 slots directly on the motherboard, USB Type-C etc.
    
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There is a need for an explanation ? If you meant "more motherboard features" than I can assume that they are thinking about M.2 slots directly on the motherboard, USB Type-C etc.

thats incorrect. ASus X99 motherboards (or at-least mine) has the m.2 slot directly integrated to the mother Board. USB 3.1 also... i dont know a single option that Z170 has and X99 doesn't. thumb.gif
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6700k may be noticeably faster in a badly multithreaded game like arma without overclocking but slower in properly multithreaded games
if you get a decent oc out of it ~4.5ghz the difference in games with bad threading will become unnoticeable while in programs with good threading the 5820k will have a large advantage


...

With the "small" logic error, that "properly multithreaded games" almost do not exist, as nearly every game test of the cpu's showed.

And, that you HAVE to heavy OC your 5820k, since its base clock is nowhere around the 6700k. Wich i am cooling with a 9cm air cooler, can you say the same about an 5820k at 4.2Ghz? Of course not.

But, if someone (like a lot of people here seemingly) play x264 bench all the time, sure, 5820k is the way to go. I will stick with more enjoyable ones smile.gif

What's coming in 1-3years, does not matter. We will have new CPU's by then anyways. This multi-thread revolution is announced year for year (mostly by AMD's usual wishthinking), yet, it still didnt happen. And no, synthetich benchmarks do not count.
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