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Reasonably certain he was being sarcastic, the BW-E IMC is better than the HW-E. Does R10 do anything for the 3.8GHz uncore wall? Or are we stuck there?
I keep hearing that.. notwithstanding running 3400 on bwe, the imc on my 5960x easily runs this same kit at 1T - my 6950x on the same R5E both seem to be a good samples, pukes with 1T above 2666. Moving it to the 10 on this bench will take a couple of days
no I don't think it's sarcasm...the memory layer build is likely different on the 10. I have a 10 waiting to be abused. wink.gif
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I keep hearing that.. notwithstanding running 3400 on bwe, the imc on my 5960x easily runs this same kit at 1T - my 6950x on the same R5E both seem to be a good samples, pukes with 1T above 2666. Moving it to the 10 on this bench will take a couple of days
no I don't think it's sarcasm...the memory layer build is likely different on the 10. I have a 10 waiting to be abused. wink.gif
thanks - that was a very fun build. (so was the 72 sportster resto-rod in the background)

I ordered directly from caselabs rather than parting it out piecemeal - 6 week mistake!!
Oh, my mistake, I thought you mentioned good experiences with the BW-E IMC previously. Though I could do 1T on on this kit with the 5960x until the 3xxx bios (no longer, 2T only), I could never get this or any other kit to run sticker timings above 2800 with HW-E without a lot of work (if it did it all).true of all my HW-E chips.
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Oh, my mistake, I thought you mentionefd good experiences with the BW-E IMC previously. Though I could do 1T on on this kit with the 5960x until the 3xxx bios (no longer, 2T only), I could never get this or any other kit to run sticker timings above 2800 with HW-E without a lot of work (if it did it all).true of all my HW-E chips.

I'm not sure we are stuck at cache 3.8.. just that the required voltage may be a bit high for my liking for Vcache. 3.8 needs 1.335V on my sample. I suspect 3.9 is ~ 1.4V. ohno-smiley02.gif
You are right - bios 3xxx on the R5E did affect memory OC with my 5960X too. Bios 1701 is my best for HWE on this MB, and I tried every release.
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I'm not sure we are stuck at cache 3.8.. just that the required voltage may be a bit high for my liking for Vcache. 3.8 needs 1.335V on my sample. I suspect 3.9 is ~ 1.4V. ohno-smiley02.gif
You are right - bios 3xxx on the R5E did affect memory OC with my 5960X too. Bios 1701 is my best for HWE on this MB, and I tried every release.
59xx can often do 4.0 cache with ~1.1v for comparison... many go up to 4.2 or 4.3 ~1.3v or better. The 6950x behave very similarly to a 5960x in a MB without the OC socket. You can have 3.8, 3.8 or 3.8 - any OC as long as it not higher than 3.8. ;-)
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59xx can often do 4.0 cache with ~1.1v for comparison... many go up to 4.2 or 4.3 ~1.3v or better. The 6950x behave very similarly to a 5960x in a MB without the OC socket. You can have 3.8, 3.8 or 3.8 - any OC as long as it not higher than 3.8. ;-)

yeah - I run cache at 4.2-4.5 on this 5960X... we knew that BWE cache was not gonna benefit from the OC socket. It has the pin contacts, but the talk on the street (hwbot street anyway) was that the ES sample's cache was not very impressive.
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59xx can often do 4.0 cache with ~1.1v for comparison... many go up to 4.2 or 4.3 ~1.3v or better. The 6950x behave very similarly to a 5960x in a MB without the OC socket. You can have 3.8, 3.8 or 3.8 - any OC as long as it not higher than 3.8. ;-)
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yeah - I run cache at 4.2-4.5 on this 5960X... we knew that BWE cache was not gonna benefit from the OC socket. It has the pin contacts, but the talk on the street (hwbot street anyway) was that the ES sample's cache was not very impressive.

I guess I can consider myself a bit lucky - I can do 3794 @ 1.25v stable on my 6900K. I wonder how my incoming DDR4-3733 16GB is going to do, though apparently the 32GB sets have better OC'ing? FedEx says not until Friday ... sadsmiley.gif
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I guess I can consider myself a bit lucky - I can do 3794 @ 1.25v stable on my 6900K. I wonder how my incoming DDR4-3733 16GB is going to do, though apparently the 32GB sets have better OC'ing? FedEx says not until Friday ... sadsmiley.gif

Let us know how the 3733 kit does! Is that a C16 or c17 kit? Yeah - 3700 is 1.28 (thoroughly tested), 3800 passes tests at 1.32V, I run the +15mV for "confidence". redface.gif
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Let us know how the 3733 kit does! Is that a C16 or c17 kit? Yeah - 3700 is 1.28 (thoroughly tested), 3800 passes tests at 1.32V, I run the +15mV for "confidence". redface.gif

It's 17 - I didn't see any 16s in the Egg ...

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1.4-1.45V DDR4 - 100% confidence. if your product use life is 5 years or more... stay under 1.4V and yo7u should be fine.

Thank you. I have tried to increase the voltage up to 1.4v, but modules won't post when anything >3000 MHz is chosen, not even 3100 MHz. What I did was I left the memory at 3000 MHz, slightly increased the voltage to 1.37v and tightened the timings to 14/15/36/1T from 15/17/39/2T.
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yeah - I was hoping to wait for the case labs Mercury s8 to arrive... 6 weeks? I can part out, fit, assemble and have a 124 cubic inch chopper ready to ride in less time. Better be one amazing PC case. redface.gif

lol Parade duty this weekend...
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Very cool! Hope you enjoy the parade.

I just ordered a Vector desk: http://s201.photobucket.com/user/vahn87/media/Desk%20V2%20no%20watermark/_MG_8967.jpg.html
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