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Because if looking simply beyond recognition for screenshots, when considering the voltage and sub timing relationship with the frequency, 3200 is the best ratio. Beyond this the scaling for certain predefined settings scale up quite a bit.

Obviously you might not realise this yourself, as you don't own a BWE CPU.

That is why we have setting's for us to change voltage , timings and frequency in the bios overriding these (predefined) settings.
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I'd appreciate if you didn't edit my posts, considering you've since made it now incorrect. It applies to all CPU on the platform.

According to you all cpu's on x99 platform so it shouldn't matter if i have a BWE cpu or not wink.gif
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That is why we have setting's for us to change voltage , timings and frequency in the bios overriding these (predefined) settings.
According to you all cpu's on x99 platform so it shouldn't matter if i have a BWE cpu or not wink.gif


Don't take this personally, but Is that why your screenshots for any frequency above this have laxed sub timings?
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Don't take this personally, but Is that why your screenshots for any frequency above this have laxed sub timings?

That's why my higher frequency looser timing's have better numbers in aida64 cache and memory bench than lower and tighter.
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That's why my higher frequency looser timing's have better numbers in aida64 cache and memory bench than lower and tighter?

I guess that is the problem. You are looking at this in black and white which is something you tend to do a lot.

If you show some comparisons with all the relative voltages and timings in tow with stability results, then perhaps it would be easier to get through to you why these things have a balance or sweet spot where the scaling becomes steep.

It's especially more difficulty to do so in your case as HWE isn't capable of running higher densities at those speeds with all the sub timings at or close to their minimal spacing.

For example screenshots of 3466 and 3600 with the timings and voltages you've shown in past is not any kind of sweet spot. Seems to me you are just out to make a point at whatever cost without understanding where the balance is with these things.
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Hello

All this talk of optimal memory settings and speeds is interesting but I think it is all for naught. There has been at least 3 entries posted in the last week or so in this thread that most likely would not even boot if the motherboard was not overriding the user settings.
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Hello

All this talk of optimal memory settings and speeds is interesting but I think it is all for naught. There has been at least 3 entries posted in the last week or so in this thread that most likely would not even boot if the motherboard was not overriding the user settings.

Heh... blushsmiley.gif

Would be nice if the UEFI turned invalid values red in the UEFI when doing silly mistakes like that.
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Is that with your 6950X? If yes, 3400 should be doable. (2T, mode 3).


For HWE.. 3200 is def the least resistance. Started as and has held up as the strongest memory ratio on this platform IMO. 6950x/R5E(10) ... 3400 seems best with the current crop of sticks. 3466 is doable, but gained nothing in performance that I could tell. redface.gif
if aid64 throughput is real then yes. smile.gif

Yes, 6950X, 3200 C14 8x8GB kit. 3466 posted just fine, was able to run a few runs of A64, but, when I fired up HCI, it was a instant crash. Not sure if BSOD, massive Ram instability, or potentially cache/SA needed some tweaking. However I was very impressed though, literally just raised voltage to 1.4, loosened primaries to C15 flat, divider to 3466, no other tweaks, and BAM into windows.

But judging from the venture, I don't think my sticks are nearly as good as you.
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I guess that is the problem. You are looking at this in black and white which is something you tend to do a lot.

If you show some comparisons with all the relative voltages and timings in tow with stability results, then perhaps it would be easier to get through to you why these things have a balance or sweet spot where the scaling becomes steep.

It's especially more difficulty to do so in your case as HWE isn't capable of running higher densities at those speeds with all the sub timings at or close to their minimal spacing.

For example screenshots of 3466 and 3600 with the timings and voltages you've shown in past is not any kind of sweet spot. Seems to me you are just out to nake a point at whatever cost without understanding where the balance is with these things.

lol yeah sure. Im afraid you got it backwards and are looking at it in black and white. You tend to claim you know it all but in fact you don't know jack. wink.gif

Of course you have to find a sweet spot. every one is going to have there own sweet spot depending on what there ram and cpu is capable of.

My point is you need to find out on your own what your systems (sweet spot) is.

This can easily be done by using aida64 cache and memory benchmark to find out what frequency timing combination gives the best results. thumb.gif
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lol yeah sure. Im afraid you got it backwards and are looking at it in black and white. You tend to claim you know it all but in fact you don't know jack. wink.gif

Of course you have to find a sweet spot. every one is going to have there own sweet spot depending on what there ram and cpu is capable of.

My point is you need to find out on your own what your systems (sweet spot) is.

This can easily be done by using aida64 cache and memory benchmark to find out what frequency timing combination gives the best results. thumb.gif

Their own sweet spot?

I think that proves you still don't understand. Come back when you can show what I've asked, or not at all. Albeit that would partly involve you having one of the CPU in question.

It's pretty evident you have my face on a dart board in your bedroom.
Edited by Silent Scone - 8/25/16 at 1:26pm
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Their own sweet spot?

I think that proves you still don't understand. Come back when you can show what I've asked, or not at all. It's pretty evident you have my face on a dart board in your bedroom.


There own sweet spot means the best performance and stability available. At least in my book
3200Mhz 14-14-14-32-1 - Auto

3600Mhz 16-16-16-38-1-Auto



higher frequency is usually better so why not try it and tighten timings as tight as possible on all capable ratio's ( 3200Mhz / 3400Mhz/ 3466Mhz and 3600Mhz) and compare the result's.
Simple way of finding the (sweetspot).
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