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Thank you for those, those timings are certainly interesting. I guess those are your own personal sweet spot lol

Maybe you can also show us your OC socket settings for both configs used in the screenshots.
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Thank you for those, those timings are certainly interesting. I guess those are your own personal sweet spot lol

Maybe you can also show us your OC socket settings for both configs used in the screenshots.

LOL you are pathetic.


Edited by lilchronic - 8/25/16 at 2:08pm
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LOL you are pathetic.

That's great, but read my first post again in reply to your first post directed at me regarding scaling. All these things scale with frequency. Maybe you can show us where you think you've found your sweet spot.

You seem to be hung up on performance, and you asked why i mentioned 3200, so far all you have shown is that your seconds are a far cry from what is possible with Broadwell at that frequency, and not a lot else.

Just remember who questioned who smile.gif
Edited by Silent Scone - 8/25/16 at 2:29pm
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LOL you are pathetic.


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That's great, but read my first post again in reply to your first post directed at me regarding scaling. All these things scale with frequency. Maybe you can show us where you think you've found your sweet spot.

You seem to be hung up on performance, and you asked why i mentioned 3200, so far all you have shown is that your seconds are a far cry from what is possible with Broadwell at that frequency, and not a lot else.

Just remember who questioned who smile.gif

My answer is above.
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There's usually a fairly significant big jump between 3200 and 3400+ on the SA/OC Socket side - depends how things are setup, but they often need a sizable hike. For the masses, it's usually best to opt for the kinder operating point.
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That depends on your usage... Comparing 6950x to dual 2690v4 core-for-core, I'm finding my applications reflect aida64's memory throughput quite directly.

That is to say, even constrained to 8 cores, a generally decently scaling, but real-world (i.e. cores do communicate, share memory, synchronize, etc...) application (that I cannot name) is showing me that this application is primarily constrained by memory throughput, but not just on a given bank, but all banks combined.

The 2xXeonx2400DDR4 setup has an overall memory throughput of 115-125GB/s (over both CPUs) according to Aida64.

Constrained to 8 cores the 3.2GHz Xeonx2400DDR4 is running the same application in the same time or better doing the same work as the 4.4GHzx3000DDR4. At lower clock speeds, the logical explanation for this is that parallel functionality is able to move data through 8 channels of memory better than 4 (not surprisingly) and correspondingly the faster 6950x cores must be spending more time waiting for data.

So, its not all muscle-shirts and hair-gel. wink.gif
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Hello

All this talk of optimal memory settings and speeds is interesting but I think it is all for naught. There has been at least 3 entries posted in the last week or so in this thread that most likely would not even boot if the motherboard was not overriding the user settings.
shhh.. you'll ruin the illusion.
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Yes, 6950X, 3200 C14 8x8GB kit. 3466 posted just fine, was able to run a few runs of A64, but, when I fired up HCI, it was a instant crash. Not sure if BSOD, massive Ram instability, or potentially cache/SA needed some tweaking. However I was very impressed though, literally just raised voltage to 1.4, loosened primaries to C15 flat, divider to 3466, no other tweaks, and BAM into windows.

But judging from the venture, I don't think my sticks are nearly as good as you.
With the 64GB kit I'm using.. 1T is basically impossible above 2666, so learning to love the bomb (2T) it did allow tightening up some other timings with the net effect being pretty good. With Mode 3 and 2T I can't complain about the performance @ 64gb. okay... I stopped complaining. redface.gif
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yeah there own sweet spot. If you don't understand that it just proves to me how much of an ____ you are. you do got one thing right thou sniper.gif. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
There own sweet spot means the best performance and stability available. At least in my book
3200Mhz 14-14-14-32-1 - Auto

3600Mhz 16-16-16-38-1-Auto

higher frequency is usually better so why not try it and tighten timings as tight as possible on all capable ratio's ( 3200Mhz / 3400Mhz/ 3466Mhz and 3600Mhz) and compare the result's.
Simple way of finding the (sweetspot).

are you running 3600 on that HWE "regularly? And did you set those IOLs to 1 or did the board???
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There's usually a fairly significant big jump between 3200 and 3400+ on the SA/OC Socket side - depends how things are setup, but they often need a sizable hike. For the masses, it's usually best to opt for the kinder operating point.

Yes i agree.
For a understanding of my oc socket settings.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1540939/gigabyte-x99-soc-champion-discussion-ownerss-club/1150_50#post_25440676

3600Mhz and i need to adjust VL4 to 1.44v


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good one!
shhh.. you'll ruin the illusion.
With the 64GB kit I'm using.. 1T is basically impossible above 2666, so learning to love the bomb (2T) it did allow tightening up some other timings with the net effect being pretty good. With Mode 3 and 2T I can't complain about the performance @ 64gb. okay... I stopped complaining. redface.gif
are you running 3600 on that HWE "regularly? And did you set those IOLs to 1 or did the board???

No i run 3200Mhz Cl14 with tight secondaries @ 1.38v. CL 13 needs close to 1.5v and DIMM temps in the 50c range at that voltage. It seems my kit is much better at higher frequency apposed to lower and tighter timings. 3600Mhz i have no problems with just haven't put in the time to tweak and lower timings enough for better performance than my 3200Mhz oc.

Edit manually set iol's
Edited by lilchronic - 8/25/16 at 3:36pm
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Yes i agree.
For a understanding of my oc socket settings.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1540939/gigabyte-x99-soc-champion-discussion-ownerss-club/1150_50#post_25440676

That's why I stay at 3200 or under on my 24/7 systems, as well. That ratio has a good range, so is less conditional in everyday usage.
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I use MemTweakIt and do several quick memory speed tests to see if a particular odd setting is actually making a difference. If the MB is overriding it then there would not be a consistently noticeable diff. Don't laugh, but I use Window's winsat utility to do a bunch of quick memory tests and see if there's a noticeable change one way or the other smile.gif.
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Appears we have gone full circle here, then. Glad we all agree, vendettas aside lol.
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