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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

Appears we have gone full circle here, then. Glad we all agree, vendettas aside lol.

For now. lol

I know i can be a douch. I'm sorry, i just cant help myself sometimes.

Edited by lilchronic - 8/25/16 at 3:54pm
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For now. lol

I know i can be a douch. I'm sorry, i just cant help myself sometimes.

Yes, we can all have bad days. That doesn't really explain why you went out of your way to prove something I said was wrong, when you're own daily settings say otherwise. Very confusing!
post #2583 of 5468
So, RTLs or Timings? biggrin.gif

What's everyone's preference?
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So, RTLs or Timings? biggrin.gif

What's everyone's preference?

Both.

Memory timings are most dependent on the ICs and binning, but RTLs are more dependent on the memory controller.
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Both.

Memory timings are most dependent on the ICs and binning, but RTLs are more dependent on the memory controller.


Nice info.

Thanks
post #2586 of 5468
For RTLs to reduce them do you set manual to what's set then slowly reduce by 1 or is there a process to it that will be more likely to boot? Also which voltage effects RTLs? I'm curious as I've never messed with them outside to ensure memory is trained properly.
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For the purpose of this thread, these can be left to the board. As we've recently witnessed, there are types who feel this is not edgy enougb for them and are looking to push limits for the sake of screenshots, or benchmarking, Adjusting RTL / IOL is one of those instances. If looking to experiment, you won't find much range here if looking for stability in tests such as GSAT.
Edited by Silent Scone - 8/26/16 at 5:48am
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Heh... blushsmiley.gif

Would be nice if the UEFI turned invalid values red in the UEFI when doing silly mistakes like that.

Hello

I'm sure the lack of warnings are somewhat influenced by the mindset of the BIOS engineers. Doubtful that they would give much consideration to the possibility that a user is changing timings that are not understood. Also I imagine theses checks would get quite complicated for settings whose validity were dependent on other values that were not yet applied.

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shhh.. you'll ruin the illusion.


Hello

No illusion busting from me. I don't point out the obvious anymore. The posted screenshots show the basics are not understood and yet the topic has now turned to setting RTLs. Kind of ironic really.
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For the purpose of this thread, these can be left to the board. As we've recently witnessed, there are types who feel this is not edgy enougb for them and are looking to push limits for the sake of screenshots, or benchmarking, Adjusting RTL / IOL is one of those instances. If looking to experiment, you won't find much range here if looking for stability in tests such as GSAT.

The easiest way to tweak RTL etc. is to lower DRAM Write Latency one notch at a time, reboot, then when you lower it and it won't boot, put it back one notch higher. I believe this setting adjusts the RTL automatically. On my 128GB at 2666 lowest it'll go is 9, on my 32GB 3200 lowest it'll go is 14. And my RTLs go lower the lower I adjust the DRAM Write Latency. smile.gif

Edit: I figured this out when I found out if I manually set the RTLs my PC wouldn't boot and I looked for a work around.
    
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That's just an ignorant way to say things. If you look at them well enough, RTLs can either help in Performance and/or Stability.

Some Boards have the habit of turning them low enough to avoid stability when left to Auto. Pretty much like the secondaries when left to the board's mercy, matter of fact.

You surely didn't start this thread to push away folks that wants to know how to set things up properly both in the Performance aspect as much as Stability did you?
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