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Ya I know. Ended up being my blck. I can stress test all day @ 175blck. Idle though is another matter. I've tried pretty much everything but it BSODs within 25 minutes when idling.

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doesn't matter how much vcore i throw at the cpu, same result every time. Changes to vccio and sa have no effect either.

I use hwinfo for ram temps.

I can easily back up that ~50c is infact a thermal barrier to this ram. I can run memtest at any freq/voltage/timings with all fans at idle speeds in a room with ~20c ambient. As soon as the dimms get around 48-52c they'll start throwing errors. I can repeat this test over and over and get the same result on either of my motherboards. Same goes for folding, same temps result in freezing, reboots, and occasional error codes in the dump file. Games its a non issue because i run an aggressive fan profile which keeps plenty of airflow through the case and keeps the dimms cool. My cpu oc passes 60 loops of x264 without issue along with 100s of hours of gaming without issue. The only stress tests it'll fail are p95 and occt.

Back to my original question. Is this temp issue normal? I can easily correct it tomorrow but i don't want to void the warranty on my ram if it is not.

Yes temperature can affect the RAM overclocking capabilities.
Before you go void your warranty, as a final suggestion, I would say lower your Uncore by 100Mhz & raise VCCIO to 1.2V & SA to 1.25V.
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Yes temperature can affect the RAM overclocking capabilities.
Before you go void your warranty, as a final suggestion, I would say lower your Uncore by 100Mhz & raise VCCIO to 1.2V & SA to 1.25V.

dropped my uncore mult to 41 and have been running vccio and sa at those exact voltages previous to posting about it. No difference. Even experimented with a little less vccio and sa with uncore at 41 with the same results. I've literally tried everything i can think of to stabilize it. Only way i can find stability is with noisy and unnecessarily loud fans.
    
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When you say memtest you mean HCI memtest right?
If not, then use HCI, or stressapptest.
If yes, try 1000%, 200% is not nearly enough of a stability test. I've had error throwing at me at 300-400%. Temp not being an issue here.

If had the time here, so I let it run for almost a day. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

snap, I forgot to swap the wallpaper.

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Ya I know. Ended up being my blck. I can stress test all day @ 175blck. Idle though is another matter. I've tried pretty much everything but it BSODs within 25 minutes when idling.
if that board has the bios setting, increase cpu "standby voltage" to 1.2V with 175 bclk. it's not really "standby" in the strict sense of the word wink.gif
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doesn't matter how much vcore i throw at the cpu, same result every time. Changes to vccio and sa have no effect either.

I use hwinfo for ram temps.

I can easily back up that ~50c is infact a thermal barrier to this ram. I can run memtest at any freq/voltage/timings with all fans at idle speeds in a room with ~20c ambient. As soon as the dimms get around 48-52c they'll start throwing errors. I can repeat this test over and over and get the same result on either of my motherboards. Same goes for folding, same temps result in freezing, reboots, and occasional error codes in the dump file. Games its a non issue because i run an aggressive fan profile which keeps plenty of airflow through the case and keeps the dimms cool. My cpu oc passes 60 loops of x264 without issue along with 100s of hours of gaming without issue. The only stress tests it'll fail are p95 and occt.

Back to my original question. Is this temp issue normal? I can easily correct it tomorrow but i don't want to void the warranty on my ram if it is not.
If you are packing the TZ sticks in a 4 slot z170 board the heat sinks perform poorly. You need to get a ram fan directly on the 4-pack. What VDIMM are you running that hits 50C?
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When you say memtest you mean HCI memtest right?
If not, then use HCI, or stressapptest.
If yes, try 1000%, 200% is not nearly enough of a stability test. I've had error throwing at me at 300-400%. Temp not being an issue here.

If had the time here, so I let it run for almost a day. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

snap, I forgot to swap the wallpaper.

yes, HCI memtest, i know i should probably run it up to 1000% but i just haven't had a chance. However, the problem exists at rated speed/timings/voltage as well as when pushed beyond those.
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If you are packing the TZ sticks in a 4 slot z170 board the heat sinks perform poorly. You need to get a ram fan directly on the 4-pack. What VDIMM are you running that hits 50C?

two inner dimms will hit 50-52c, dimm closest to my front rad(cl s8 case) is usually ~48c, and the outer dimm closest to the cpu is at around 49-50c when crashes occur. its definitely an airflow issues over the heatsinks. There isn't much room between the dimms either which doesn't help. I agree a fan right on the ram would fix this. My case temps are at worst 30c at any point during the day, usually lower. However, i'd rather just watercool it and be done with it rather than spend money on a temp solution. I have the parts sitting in the closet, i just wasn't planning on doing it until my rebuild later this month.
    
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yeah, I mean.. I'm running 1.45V (or more) VDIMM on a 4x8GB TZ kit on a Max8 extreme and I just sit a 90mm fan on top on the 4-pack. Dimm temps (which are not read correctly on my 3200c14 samsung kit) never exceed 30C by a temp probe inserted into the HS or by IR thermo. They really do not need water cooling, just air flow directly on the sticks. but WC ram looks cool. thumb.gif
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yeah, I mean.. I'm running 1.45V (or more) VDIMM on a 4x8GB TZ kit on a Max8 extreme and I just sit a 90mm fan on top on the 4-pack. Dimm temps (which are not read correctly on my 3200c14 samsung kit) never exceed 30C by a temp probe inserted into the HS or by IR thermo. They really do not need water cooling, just air flow directly on the sticks. but WC ram looks cool. thumb.gif

Yeah, wc'ing ram is completely unnecessary. Only reason i originally was going to do it was for aesthetics but now i guess it'll be functional in that it'll give me silence while folding. I'm about to stick a 120mm case fan on top of them with some double sided sticky foam tape as a temp solution. Should fix the problem for now. If i can get these temps under control they should overclock wonderfully. CL 14 3600mhz is my goal, i'm certain its possible from prior testing at ~1.46-1.47v with proper temps.
    
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if that board has the bios setting, increase cpu "standby voltage" to 1.2V with 175 bclk.

I was trying up to 1.25V w/o success. Tried 1.35V today though and haven't had an idle lockup in 3 hours, which is a record. tongue.gif
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I was trying up to 1.25V w/o success. Tried 1.35V today though and haven't had an idle lockup in 3 hours, which is a record. tongue.gif

yeah - somethin's not quite right. enter bios (with a USB stick in any port) move to the page where you save/load bios settings, hit F2 and post that text file (attachment tool in the editor) here. need to see your settings. smile.gif
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