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Hi, how does this screen compare to the Benq XL2411Z ?
I have an Nvidia 980 so I'll not be using freesync but talking about input lag, refresh rate and quality in general,
which is better ?
I'd use it for gaming .. competitive FPS and Elite Dangerous.
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I'm waiting for mine to arrive today, not sure how exactly I will measure input lap though.
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Hi, how does this screen compare to the Benq XL2411Z ?
I have an Nvidia 980 so I'll not be using freesync but talking about input lag, refresh rate and quality in general,
which is better ?
I'd use it for gaming .. competitive FPS and Elite Dangerous.

It should be fairly low. From my testing playing CS:GO, I'm always on the top of the scoreboards and have high KDA in pub games - this is after playing the old maps for two weeks after a 15 year absence from playing CS.
This is from both using a Nvidia GTX 670 (at home) or AMD Radeon R9 285 (at work)

Maybe I should start playing ranked to see if I can return to my former glory days. wink.gif

Tom's Hardware has a review sample and I do know they test for input lag. Maybe OP can update the thread when the review is published.
Edited by Peter Nixeus - 8/29/15 at 11:14pm
 
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Got this monitor on Tuesday of last week and I'm sorry to say that it's going back. Colors were very washed out on the desktop even after calibrating through hardware. After calibrating through software desktop was better. Also had pretty noticeable banding on gradients on default settings. CS:GO looked pretty good and blacks were surprisingly inky. GTA V looked good as well. But other darker games I tried looked like they lacked depth. Like darks were oversaturated.

That 144Hz was awesome though. I think if you're a twitch gamer and don't really care about colors this could be great. I've just seen cheaper TNs that look better.

Edit - sorry wrote this late last night and wanted to adjust to make things more clear. Before I said desktop didn't look great after calibrating in software. It looks okay after software calibration. Just not great after hardware only.
Edited by ryun - 8/31/15 at 3:59am
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Got this monitor on Tuesday of last week and I'm sorry to say that it's going back. Colors were very washed out on the desktop even after calibrating through software. Also had pretty noticeable banding on gradients. CS:GO looked pretty good and blacks were surprisingly inky. GTA V looked good as well. But other darker games I tried looked like they lacked depth. Like darks were oversaturated.

That 144Hz was awesome though. I think if you're a twitch gamer and don't really care about colors this could be great. I've just seen cheaper TNs that look better.

I think the monitor has a LUT or OSD that you can calibrate with instead of using software - from what I see in the user manual that I downloaded from their website. Did you try the other pre-set settings like 6500K or sRGB?
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Yup. The preset settings weren't great. User defined looked the best after tweaking but it only got you half way. I was able to tweak the settings in the OSD to mitigate the banding, but couldn't get very far dealing with the washed out colors in hardware alone. PCper talked about this in their review too.

I don't have a colorimeter so I was limited in what I could do, but after calibrating in software it looked better at the desktop. Different games reacted very differently to that profile I made, though. Some seemed to respect it while others had their own agenda.

Slightly digressing, but wanted to mention that the anti glare coating was also very good. No sparkles or anything on whites.
Edited by ryun - 8/31/15 at 3:53am
post #27 of 113
Well the speakers are really bad on these monitors. The reviews weren't kidding. Either way after calibrating using the settings PCPer recommended, everything looks nice (not very picky about colors mind you).

Still testing out the Freesync settings on a few games though.
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Got this monitor on Tuesday of last week and I'm sorry to say that it's going back. Colors were very washed out on the desktop even after calibrating through hardware. After calibrating through software desktop was better. Also had pretty noticeable banding on gradients on default settings. CS:GO looked pretty good and blacks were surprisingly inky. GTA V looked good as well. But other darker games I tried looked like they lacked depth. Like darks were oversaturated.

That 144Hz was awesome though. I think if you're a twitch gamer and don't really care about colors this could be great. I've just seen cheaper TNs that look better.

Edit - sorry wrote this late last night and wanted to adjust to make things more clear. Before I said desktop didn't look great after calibrating in software. It looks okay after software calibration. Just not great after hardware only.

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Originally Posted by ryun View Post

Yup. The preset settings weren't great. User defined looked the best after tweaking but it only got you half way. I was able to tweak the settings in the OSD to mitigate the banding, but couldn't get very far dealing with the washed out colors in hardware alone. PCper talked about this in their review too.

I don't have a colorimeter so I was limited in what I could do, but after calibrating in software it looked better at the desktop. Different games reacted very differently to that profile I made, though. Some seemed to respect it while others had their own agenda.

Slightly digressing, but wanted to mention that the anti glare coating was also very good. No sparkles or anything on whites.

Thanks for the feed back. I will have my team take a look into this. We mainly tested the monitors for performance in games. Obviously we can't match the image and viewing angles of IPS panels. Also different panels and production batches have slight variations. Originally during development of the NX-VUE24 the display image quality looked good or equal in comparison to other TN monitors we had in our office (including the top selling 24" 144Hz, other FreeSync TN monitors, and other 24" VRR TN Monitors) and gave the go ahead for production. However, we did make some last minute monitor setting adjustments using feedback from some professional CS:GO players before we shipped. Also the GAMMA settings and information was given to us by our scalar partner.

We are aware that every person have different viewing preferences - which may look good to some people may not look good to other people.
That is why we ensured the NX-VUE24 have full display adjustments in the On Screen Display Menu. The Contrast, Brightness, and Color Temperatures are fully adjustable. Also make sure DCR (Dynamic Contrast Ratio) is off before making any adjustments.

For now, if you do not have a Colorimeter, we recommend if you do want to calibrate the monitor is to use PCPer's setting. NOTE: Their setting is not using software calibration, but using the monitor's on screen display menu hardware settings:
Quote:
Our calibration profile was created using the lowest calibration speed in a dimly lit room. Here are the required settings if you wish to use our profile:

"Gamma Off" (2.6) ("Gamma On" not recommended by PCPer)
Brightness: 40
Contrast: 50
Preset: User Define
Red: 70
Green: 63
Blue: 62
Profile download: (HERE)
The above profile was created specifically for a color temperature target of 6500K at a luminance of 120 cd/m2 (nit). Gamma 2.2. Remember that the only way to get a correct calibration on your specific panel is by using a colorimeter on that very panel.

EDIT: Also make sure Blue Ray (Low Blue Light) settings is off. It can make colors look washed out if enabled.
Edited by Peter Nixeus - 9/1/15 at 3:23pm
 
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Not a dig at you guys, just spit balling....

How many returns and lost sales has bad out of box calibration cost manufacturers? Personally, if I didn't have a colorimeter, my $800 Acer Predator would have gone back.

Peter, any inside scoop on why it isn't done better? Is the cost that high in the scale of things?

EDIT: Of course understanding each room is different and calibration on an ultra fine level isn't possible.
    
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Thanks for the feed back. I will have my team take a look into this. We mainly tested the monitors for performance in games. Obviously we can't match the image and viewing angles of IPS panels. Also different panels and production batches have slight variations. Originally during development of the NX-VUE24 the display image quality looked good or equal in comparison to other TN monitors we had in our office (including the top selling 24" 144Hz, other FreeSync TN monitors, and other 24" VRR TN Monitors) and gave the go ahead for production. However, we did make some last minute monitor setting adjustments using feedback from some professional CS:GO players before we shipped. Also the GAMMA settings and information was given to us by our scalar partner.

We are aware that every person have different viewing preferences - which may look good to some people may not look good to other people.
That is why we ensured the NX-VUE24 have full display adjustments in the On Screen Display Menu. The Contrast, Brightness, and Color Temperatures are fully adjustable. Also make sure DCR (Dynamic Contrast Ratio) is off before making any adjustments.

For now, if you do not have a Colorimeter, we recommend if you do want to calibrate the monitor is to use PCPer's setting. NOTE: Their setting is not using software calibration, but using the monitor's on screen display menu hardware settings:
EDIT: Also make sure Blue Ray (Low Blue Light) settings is off. It can make colors look washed out if enabled.

Thanks for the tips, but I tried all of those before making my decision to return unfortunately. I noticed that when I minimized one problem another would be stronger. For example, when I messed with calibrating the gamma in software to lessen the washed out colors the banding would return. To me, the banding was most evident in the steam overlay where Valve seems to love gradients.

Regarding the feedback from CS:GO players: That's not really surprising; the game did look great even without messing with the out of the box settings. The viewing angles were surprisingly good too, much like PCPer found. It was just the whole display that looked really washed out rather than just the extremes.

I think you have a decent monitor here, for what it's worth. I'd say most people that game probably have a lot to like, especially if they're CS:GO players. Additionally, while I had never heard of Nixeus before it was you posting here that made me think of them much more positively (and I'm mostly a lurker around here). Enough so that I figured I'd take a chance and pre-order without reviews, which I don't regret for what it's worth.

It seems like you really care and generally have a passion for this, so please keep that spirit up. Good luck in the future.
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