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Its a fanboy from Malaysia it seems, the IP belongs to Malaysian ISP, the Whois information of the domain of the name servers doesn't show anything linked with nVidia.
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Its a fanboy from Malaysia it seems, the IP belongs to Malaysian ISP, the Whois information of the domain of the name servers doesn't show anything linked with nVidia.

I think that was his point. Some guy is trying to change the Wikipedia entries to reflect the current scandal. Way too soon to be doing that.
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post #2103 of 2682
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Originally Posted by Mahigan View Post

I think that was his point. Some guy is trying to change the Wikipedia entries to reflect the current scandal. Way too soon to be doing that.

It really does highlight the idiots that circle around these scenarios, blindly lusting for one side or the other. Which really gets in the way of legitimate discussion.

Once upon a time, the Internet and Web was idiot free. Then I logged on!!!

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Originally Posted by Mahigan View Post

After that the Oxide dev was like... It was too slow so NVIDIA asked that we shut it down. And I was like.. That's what I figured. Then Oxide dev was like again Maxwell can't do Async compute.

Beyond3D were like... Yes it can. So they made a test to counter what the Oxide dev stated.

Test was all like.. No it can't.

And I was all like... Yes it can but it's software driven (software compiler). Peeps here were like... There's no evidence it is software driven.

Now Beyond3D is like... Yes it can, we think, let us look into it more...

And that's where we are today.

And part of that is a mischaracterization of what occurred. The first post regarding the test was this:
https://forum.beyond3d.com/posts/1868395/
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Ok, so here's a little micro benchmark that I wrote. Maybe it will point out something interesting about whether async compute is the culprit for AotS results or not.

GTX 680:
1. 18.01ms 4.12e+000
2. 36.40ms 4.12e+000
3. 54.93ms 4.12e+000
4. 72.65ms 4.12e+000
5. 90.29ms 4.12e+000
6. 107.10ms 4.12e+000
So no async compute.

HD 4600:
1. 57.36ms 4.12e+000
2. 114.61ms 4.12e+000
3. 172.10ms 4.12e+000
4. 229.67ms 4.12e+000
5. 286.98ms 4.12e+000
6. 344.57ms 4.12e+000
Also no async compute.

Anyone willing to give it a go on Maxwell or GCN? Not sure it will actually work (Hey it's my first D3D12 app smile.gif), but if it does you should not see time basically double when it goes from one kernel launch to two kernel launches and so on. It will output a perf.log file in executable directory when run (so you can kill it because it will hog your system if it's running on GPU also running a display).

That shows none of the intent you attribute to them in you summary particularly not the creator of the test.
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New Questions. What are the Batches meaning? Can sombody also put here the outputfile from Ashes Singularity?
Edited by Digidi - 9/5/15 at 4:14pm
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It really does highlight the idiots that circle around these scenarios, blindly lusting for one side or the other. Which really gets in the way of legitimate discussion.

Once upon a time, the Internet and Web was idiot free. Then I logged on!!!

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Are we talking about another dimension here? tongue.gif
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Are we talking about another dimension here? tongue.gif

Nah, just like 25 years ago, when only us "nerds" where getting "online". Although the idiot part of my statement probably hasn't changed.

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People are selling their cards... I'm not making this up... a LOT of people too.

LOL, your a funny thing
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And part of that is a mischaracterization of what occurred. The first post regarding the test was this:
https://forum.beyond3d.com/posts/1868395/
That shows none of the intent you attribute to them in you summary particularly not the creator of the test.

I would direct you to the HardOCP thread were the folks there, who are at Beyond3D, did take what I was saying personally. With personal insults being flung towards me. Yes was as a means to try and prove that the Oxide dev was being dishonest in his statement (look at several statements from Jawed for example or Razor1). Many claim that the Oxide dev was biased. Which are the accusations many of them flung his way and my way (people accusing me of being bought, in the thread... that I'm looking to make "a little change" on the side). I didn't make the statements that Maxwell 2 couldn't do Async Compute. The Oxide dev did... but they attacked me for it.

I summarized it as I saw the whole issue blow up. I'm not upset at their testing. I'm actually happy. But their intent was to disprove the Oxide dev's statements. Maybe not the author... but many folks participating in this testing.

The way I see it, the test is needed. To mitigate fears. At the same time I question the way the test was first communicated. That the GCN latency, in the test, was somewhat a sign that GCN was poor at computing. It took Sebbi, stepping in, to re-iterate my concerns (which they brushed off) as to the way the test was programmed. I mentioned that batches needed to be threaded in increments of 64 (256 often being ideal). When someone posted over at Beyond3D that "Mahigan had concerns" someone hit back that I once worked for ATi therefore I was biased and my concerns didn't matter.

There is a lot of hostility towards me. There has been from the moment I posted my theory. I'm not going to change the story, as it unfolded. Now on with the testing.
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i think i found the best picture to summarize what is asynchronous shaders
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