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post #11 of 19
I would mostly concur with Spellfire.

I brought home the Titanium Green version. I'm going to try a Sabertooth x99/z97 build in it with fans that I'm going to paint Forest/Dark green to somewhat match the factory paint job. I will probably try a couple of Alphacool ST30 or Darkside (LP) 360mm radiators and attempt to get my liquid a dark green using Mayhem Pastel.

As said, the side panels are not nearly as flexible as had been talked about in reviews. They are definitely no worse than the Enthoo Pro (non-M), but not nearly as rigid as the NZXT S340 or Fractal Design Define R5 or Arc Mini R2, but I didn't have much difficulty lining up the slots they attach in to on the main chassis portion. I would say they are on par with the Obsidian 350D/450D from Corsair. The chassis itself was a bit heavier than I'd originally thought.

The case itself is quite rigid, and shows little flex even with the top slide-out radiator bracket removed. Once it's reinstalled the case is as rigid as they come, much better than the Enthoo Pro with the optical bays and side plate removed. It seems Phanteks has made a small change in the construction versus the Pro. Both the Pro and Pro-M have fully removable tops, but the Enthoo Pro doesn't have any screws in the top left and right corners anchoring the left and right side of the top panel to the front, rolled portion of the front metal chassis panel, while the Pro-M has two on each side to enhance structural integrity. The motherboard tray, PSU shroud and general construction all seem quite robust. I also love the powder coated interior black finish.

The front mesh is actually about an inch taller than that of the original Enthoo Pro by virtue of the single optical bay versus the 3 optical bay plus top single I/O slot on the original. The case is also nearly exactly two inches shorter in height and depth than the Pro, which I also like. In addition the side and bottom (slit) vents built in to the front panel have no support posts interrupting the slits, so I plan to put some PVC filter material with double sided tape inside the left, right and bottom slits to further dust filter. It's the .17mm stuff from Performance PCs or ModDiy.com. But at least with those there is additional airflow from the sides for the front fans.

I would probably say my only two quibbles with the case is that while it comes with the same, very useful velcro straps, there is only about 15-17mm of cable management space directly behind the motherboard. That plus the dearth of cable management loops for zip ties or smaller, custom cut velcro straps are the only things I really don't absolutely love.

Also the slits cut into the 3.5" disk mount at the top are a bit roughly cut, and could potentially be a very slight "hand hazard". I don't personally care because I'm going to use the drop-and-lock 2.5" mounts behind the mobo tray, and a front mounted radiator, so that's already back inside the packing box.

I also have to say, that while the green on the metal panels and plastic front is not a completely perfect match, the green finish on the metal is very nice. Smooth, not shiny and has little metallic sparkles in it, so I'm very happy it's not just another Corsair C70, flat olive colour.

Alternatively if any damage is sustained by any metal panels, it would be a real pain to match the factory finish. Mine came with a very tiny chip on the front bottom of the right side panel, but you can't see it with the panel installed. Also once finished building I'll have to wipe it down because like any black Phanteks case, it does a great job of reflecting finger prints from handling.

I'd give it a 9 out of 10. No buyer's remorse at all from someone who owns way TOO many cases thumb.gif
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post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by 10e View Post

I would mostly concur with Spellfire.

The front mesh is actually about an inch taller than that of the original Enthoo Pro by virtue of the single optical bay versus the 3 optical bay plus top single I/O slot on the original. The case is also nearly exactly two inches shorter in height and depth than the Pro, which I also like. In addition the side and bottom (slit) vents built in to the front panel have no support posts interrupting the slits, so I plan to put some PVC filter material with double sided tape inside the left, right and bottom slits to further dust filter. It's the .17mm stuff from Performance PCs or ModDiy.com. But at least with those there is additional airflow from the sides for the front fans.

I would probably say my only two quibbles with the case is that while it comes with the same, very useful velcro straps, there is only about 15-17mm of cable management space directly behind the motherboard. That plus the dearth of cable management loops for zip ties or smaller, custom cut velcro straps are the only things I really don't absolutely love.

Also the slits cut into the 3.5" disk mount at the top are a bit roughly cut, and could potentially be a very slight "hand hazard". I don't personally care because I'm going to use the drop-and-lock 2.5" mounts behind the mobo tray, and a front mounted radiator, so that's already back inside the packing box.

I plugged the side vents on the front with some black art paper (13mm wide) and taped it to the plastic front on the inside.
I prefer that all intake air is filtered and placing (foam or similar) filters on these tiny slots would be difficult as there is little
room to attach and secure the side vents filters.

Yes, I was also surprised that the back does not have a lot of room to work with ...luckily, the front part is somewhat deeper
so that the 24-pin cable can be channeled through.

I also removed the 3.5 disk brackets and put the HDD on stubs and the SSD on some rubber bands. That way I'm cooling
the SSD/HDD and not (also) the HDD cage.
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post #13 of 19
Hi.

I'm thinking about replacing my tj08-e with something roomier without sacrificing much on air cooling.
Is the pro-m a good choice considering i'de be installing a couple of 140's on the front?
Edited by Ultramar - 11/28/15 at 6:09am
post #14 of 19
Go for the fractal define design S. Way better air cooling IMO and you can fit 3X!!! 140mm fans in the front which is pretty insane.
post #15 of 19
The Define S ? Really ?
Hard to believe that something without a front mesh would have good airflow.. will have to look at some benchmarks before i pull the trigger. Thanks for the suggestion wink.gif
post #16 of 19
The Define S and Pro M are basically the same base upon the reviews below.

Evolv ATX vs Define S
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/06/01/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-atx-review/3

Evolv ATX vs Pro m
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/09/01/phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-review/3


By the way it has been proven that more fans do not necessarily equal better cooling. It is all about setup of the case.
post #17 of 19
Very interesting results. Thanks for linking :-)
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by smithydan View Post

The Define S and Pro M are basically the same base upon the reviews below.

Evolv ATX vs Define S
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/06/01/phanteks-enthoo-evolv-atx-review/3

Evolv ATX vs Pro m
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/09/01/phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-review/3


By the way it has been proven that more fans do not necessarily equal better cooling. It is all about setup of the case.

Those benchmarks are very unreliable. There using stock configuration and define S stock fans are pretty terrible compared to the phanteks stock. Also for the fractal design S you really do need good static pressure fans to overcome the resistance of the front. You can also just remove the front cover during summer or something to increase the air flow.

The phanteks pro M has a psu cover where you can't remove and mount an extra bottom intake for your GPU. The PSU cover is also blocking the bottom front intake which is a weird design IMO. So basically the only intake you are going to have is the top front intake or use the top as intakes. One more disadvantage of the pro M is not fully dust filtered on the FRONT. This is a pretty huge mistake on their part.
post #19 of 19
The thermal results cited here:

Evolv ATX vs Pro m

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/09/01/phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-review/3

Were achieved with the original Pro M, which ships (in the UK at least) with no intake fans at all - so those results were based on the Pro M operating with just one 14 inch exhaust fan. This is acknowledged here:

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/09/01/phanteks-enthoo-pro-m-review/4

so, all in all, I would say those results are pretty good and would be better with at least one intake fan included. What benchmark evidence can you point to that shows that the Fractal Define S air cools significantly better?

I have two Pro M's - an original version and the new acylic window version. Aside from the new window (which feels quite sturdy, and is definitely more solid than the panel on the original) and the addition of an additional 14 inch fan at the front, there are a couple of other subtle changes that none of the reviews seem to have picked up on. For example, with respect to the front panel, the vented areas on the left and right now have a mesh strip behind them (which they did not have on my original version). This mesh is not as fine as the dust filter sitting behind the front panel, but is certainly finer than the mesh of the front panel itself. The vents on the bottom of the front piece are now sealed off altogether. These may not be major changes, but Phanteks have certainly tweaked the front panel since the original was released.
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