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That's always a good sign.

Anyway, if you're using the latest version (4.7 I think) and not using RAPID I don't think that's causing it. If you're using RAPID disable it. If in doubt still, remove the program and see if the problem goes away. I use it myself on my laptop and don't run into problems (I don't use RAPID obviously).

Just updated Magician, I was using 4.6. Thanks for the help, I'll see if the new version stops it from happening.
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Whats up with the memory setting in the ROG Realbench stress test? Should I set it to 4gb or to my max ram?

4600 @ 1.35v & 1.36v crashed after ~ 3 hours of real bench =(. Doesn't look like I won the silicon lottery. hopefully get it stable soon, would really like to run it at 4700 below 1.4v.

Would delidding help lower vcore requirements or just lower temperature?
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You'd max the RAM, that'll push it the hardest.

But really at x46 you've already got a faster chip than a HW/DC x49. Go through the HW/DC threads to see how many people had that kind of clocks..

I have always found that it's ~0.06v jump per multiplier when you start reaching the limits and of course once you do, only a really stupid amount of increase will allow the next one making it completely wasted experience. So if 1.35v isn't playing nice for x46 then I'd say you'll need at least 1.43v for x47.
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What timings?
Nothing radical.
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AIDA64 is another program that shows these both if your boards sensors provide this information, did you try that?

AIDA cant get really any readings of my mb, it says unknown.

also running diagnostics is RTC accuracy failure a big deal? asus diagnostics test.
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Hi guys, I receive my I7 6700k last week ( finally find one in canada). I spend the entire weekend removing old hardware,cleaning and reinstalling everything and now I am ready to start playing with my new toy but I don't know much about intel platform I always been with AMD my last intel was a pentium 120 back in 1995...

So I have a couple question, I try to google as much as possible but some question are still remaining, so maybe you guys can help me out.

I have the gigabyte z170x-ud5 bios F4b

1. I understand you have to disable all C state,Turbo and EIST before any OC , should I also disable Cpu Thermal Monitor too?

2. What is Cpu flex ratio ?

Take a look into the Advanced CPU Setting of my bios at the bottom :

O8aBIfl.png

3. What's voltage optimization? Note that its not in voltage section of the bios but in CPU one.

4. RSR, anyone know what's that?

5. In the memory part of the bios I have a " memory multiplier tweaker" when the timming are put to manual , it can be 1 or higher ratio. What's that?

6.In the voltage part of the bios I have "CPU core PLL overvoltage", I understand its a cpu related voltage but do it help in OC?


Sorry that a lot of question but I want to understand every settings before I start to overclock , except for that I figure out the rest of the bios this is not much different from AMD side.

One more thing if anyone with the same board can tell me if hwinfo64 give them a 2v vcore spike every 30 minute? When it hapend its also screw temp 4 reading. Is probably a false reading, gigabyte software don't give me any spike.

Thanks guys
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Hi guys, I receive my I7 6700k last week ( finally find one in canada). I spend the entire weekend removing old hardware,cleaning and reinstalling everything and now I am ready to start playing with my new toy but I don't know much about intel platform I always been with AMD my last intel was a pentium 120 back in 1995...

So I have a couple question, I try to google as much as possible but some question are still remaining, so maybe you guys can help me out.

I have the gigabyte z170x-ud5 bios F4b

1. I understand you have to disable all C state,Turbo and EIST before any OC , should I also disable Cpu Thermal Monitor too?

On HW/DC you don't and I don't see a reason why on SL you should disable them suddenly. Manual voltage control and use EIST and C states to allow for clock and voltage to lower on demand. You can't OC with turbo disabled if it's been implemented correctly but not all manufacturers do. Doing OC is setting a higher turbo clock. Unless you OC via BCLK.
Leave all thermal protections ON.
You could disable spread spectrum but it's no big deal, you won't notice it but that BCLK will be stable instead of going +- few tenths of MHz.
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2. What is Cpu flex ratio ?

Take a look into the Advanced CPU Setting of my bios at the bottom :

O8aBIfl.png

3. What's voltage optimization? Note that its not in voltage section of the bios but in CPU one.

4. RSR, anyone know what's that?

5. In the memory part of the bios I have a " memory multiplier tweaker" when the timming are put to manual , it can be 1 or higher ratio. What's that?
Some crazy GB names for god knows what.
I have ASRock board and the help is actually useful and more verbose, for these kind of proprietary named settings it helps.
Most often these added strange settings are for efficiency. Use auto or what ever you think suits your OC best.
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6.In the voltage part of the bios I have "CPU core PLL overvoltage", I understand its a cpu related voltage but do it help in OC?
Don't need to bother. Enabled should help OC or so it says, but I just leave it on auto.
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Sorry that a lot of question but I want to understand every settings before I start to overclock , except for that I figure out the rest of the bios this is not much different from AMD side.
It's been the same since CPU's were invented, only thing new are the new things and options they add in regards to efficiency and conforming with regulations.
SL is sort of a weirdo though, lacks the voltage control previous generations had and you can only set Vccin named Vcore in UEFI. But the real Vcore is lower than what you set in UEFI, there are I think LDOs on the CPU that handle the final stage of voltage regulation on the die itself just like FIVR did before except with SL you have no control over it, it's all done in analog HW.
Edited by JackCY - 9/29/15 at 5:08pm
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Asked this in another thread, but figured I might be more likely to get an answer here:

I'm using a Gigabyte board (Z170X-UD5) and I've got a couple questions about overclocking with it if anyone could answer. I've got my 6700K stable at 4.7 GHz and XMP-enabled DDR4 3000 with 1.4v (Vcore; nothing else changed yet) selected in the BIOS. However, even with the LLC at its highest setting (there are only three: auto, standard, and high), HWInfo records Vcore dips to 1.38-1.392v under load.


Shouldn't there be an LLC setting that actually boosts Vcore a bit higher than what I set in the BIOS?


Also, what's the Gigabyte equivalent of Asus's adaptive voltage mode? Do I just manually enable C-states and EIST instead of leaving them on auto?



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I had a couple of crashes recently. I don't think they are overclock related, but are due to stupid use of my rig. I just want a second opinion to confirm it isn't related to my overclock.

Crashes occurred using photoshop to basically merge photos for star trails. I had one particularly bad one when I attempted to open 100 individual photos instead of layers. It gave a warning to close photoshop, then screen went black and speakers started buzzing. When I rebooted, the desktop was black and my icons were missing. I had to sort by name to get them back on screen again. I was also able to set a background image, something Windows was preventing since I'm still inactivated.
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On HW/DC you don't and I don't see a reason why on SL you should disable them suddenly. Manual voltage control and use EIST and C states to allow for clock and voltage to lower on demand. You can't OC with turbo disabled if it's been implemented correctly but not all manufacturers do. Doing OC is setting a higher turbo clock. Unless you OC via BCLK.
Leave all thermal protections ON.
You could disable spread spectrum but it's no big deal, you won't notice it but that BCLK will be stable instead of going +- few tenths of MHz.
Some crazy GB names for god knows what.
I have ASRock board and the help is actually useful and more verbose, for these kind of proprietary named settings it helps.
Most often these added strange settings are for efficiency. Use auto or what ever you think suits your OC best.
Don't need to bother. Enabled should help OC or so it says, but I just leave it on auto.
It's been the same since CPU's were invented, only thing new are the new things and options they add in regards to efficiency and conforming with regulations.
SL is sort of a weirdo though, lacks the voltage control previous generations had and you can only set Vccin named Vcore in UEFI. But the real Vcore is lower than what you set in UEFI, there are I think LDOs on the CPU that handle the final stage of voltage regulation on the die itself just like FIVR did before except with SL you have no control over it, it's all done in analog HW.


Gigabyte UD5 allow overclock with turbo off so far. and EIST are not working if I use fixed voltage ... I have to set offset voltage to make it work and I kinda prefer fixed voltage. I dont see a need for the c state and such im coming from a 1090T @ 1.56V so comparing to a skylake even without C state the wattage are so low.

Still want to know whats those setting are if anyone know, thing like CPU flex ratio ...
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