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Is there any software I can use for stability test at the load of "typical office work" ? AIDA or Prime are overkill for what I need know...
If you do office work why would you need to overclock the cpu past the stock turbo boost? Prime95 is the best way to find out stabilty I think.
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Hello

Delidding voids all warranties for the CPU.

Officially, probably.

Unofficially, not always.

 

This only applies to the tuning plan, delid a chip you just got from Frys, gg your warranty.

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Skylake on a Gigabyte board's been a pain in the rear for me to overclock in a way that drops idle voltage. There is no adaptive mode and C-states don't do jack on manual voltage mode, so I tried offset. Any negative offset from the BIOS, no matter how small, causes my system to fail to boot. So now I'm doing offset (-0.05v) purely through XTU in conjunction with 45x multipliers and XMP (3000 MHz) with LLC on standard through the BIOS. Voltage drops at idle like I want and it seems perfectly stable, but Skylake's load voltage still varies wildly depending on what I'm doing. It's ~1.25v for Realbench, ~1.3 for games, and up to 1.35v for Prime95.


I don't suppose there's much more I could do in terms of specific voltage control? I suppose I'm an extreme minority, but I never want my overclocked chip using more voltage for anything than it needs to (for longevity as well as erring on the side of caution with a new architecture/process node). My chip doesn't need more than 1.3v in manual mode to be stable in everything at 4.5 GHz, but I really don't want 1.3v surging through my chip 24/7 if it can be avoided. Otherwise, I guess this is my conservative 24/7 overclock. 4.6 and 4.7 are easily doable, but occasional Prime95-type voltage spikes worry me.
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If you do office work why would you need to overclock the cpu past the stock turbo boost? Prime95 is the best way to find out stabilty I think.

It's for temperature. I just did a supper compact mITX build, I want to see what kind of temperature it will maintain under normal load.
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Bonjour!

Just passed a night with 58 loops of x264 with the i7 6700k.

I'm at 1.30VCore and 4.5Ghz. I abandonned the 4.6 because I had to add a lot more voltage.
I have reseted LLC to auto and the probes showed 1.296V on idle and 1.32~1.34V on load. Still far from the 1.42V so why not....
The temp was pretty high, 75° max on HWMonitor and HWInfo (last beta) but on AI Suite it showed 10° lower.

Concerning LLC in Asus Motherboards (Z170 Pro Gaming):
There are multiple levels of LLC, when the level is hight, the voltage delta is too.
Set to auto means Level 6 and it add a lot more voltage. I had to set to level 4 to have a minimal voltage delta when I tried the 4.6Ghz.

But I think there are a lot more parameters that can impact the overclocking especially in the DRM menu (LLC, VRM switching frequency, etc.). Thanks to you, I know what the LLC is but for the rest ...

I saw that my 2x8Go Corsair LPX Vengeance 3000MHz are not compatible for now so I think it can be a cause for my bad overclockings.
Or can it be the slots ? I'm on A1 and B1 instead of recommended A2 and B2.

And on top of that, I'm on Windows 10! lol
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Damn what...

Must have passed about 70 loops at 4.6ghz, 1.375vcore.

4623mhz hard crashed several times without making it to half a loop at 1.38v

0.03v for +23mhz at the same stability already? frown.gif

Feels like something is messed up. I'l have to go super easy settings, 2133mhz RAM, 800mhz fclk, HT off etc.

I went to 47x with RAM at 2133, cache down, HT off, 800mhz fclk - i also disabled spread spectrum which stabilized my bclk instead of having it swing up and down so much randomly. At 1.42vcore and a little droop i was then able to pass 3 loops of x264, didn't have time to test more at that time and i want to view it manually until i have a better idea of stability. There's still hope for 47x biggrin.gif Not as a 24/7 i feel (1.37vcore is fine for me at the moment, i'l see how the 1.5v guys hold out in 3-6 months) but as a solid bench profile for at least non-HT tasks/games.

I'm stuck at 4.6 as well, I dont think many people are truly stable above 4.7-4.8. Looks like that is the wall with skylake.

I think that at some point, 4.5 GHz+, just adding Vcore doesn't helps stability. There's something else which needs to be tweaked when you get to those settings. What that might be, I'm not sure.
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I think that at some point, 4.5 GHz+, just adding Vcore doesn't helps stability. There's something else which needs to be tweaked when you get to those settings. What that might be, I'm not sure.

There might be no such setting.

 

I've been burnt out when it comes to testing from all the days I've spent in the first 2 weeks, but with less voltages to play with compared to Haswell, I can't even think of what to begin tweaking to test. Dunno if you were around the overclocking thread back in Haswell, but there was input voltage that could help some people when vcore was very high. But that setting doesn't exist anymore for Skylake.

 

 

 

Lol, found a mysterious nyan cat viewing my chart. Hi, whoever you are. :D


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Is there any software I can use for stability test at the load of "typical office work" ? AIDA or Prime are overkill for what I need know...

If it's anything that loads the CPU a lot and CPU overclocking matters for, you probably need a decent stability test
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It's for temperature. I just did a supper compact mITX build, I want to see what kind of temperature it will maintain under normal load.

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I saw a little ways back someone talking about running Prime (28.7) blend for 10 minutes. Are you guys using the default 3 minute window, or changing to longer windows? (by window I mean time to run each fft)
Just me, I guess, but I've always used 10-15 minute windows, and I prefer to test one fft at a time except of course if I run the small fft test.

For example, for Haswell there was a group of fft's I found to be very helpful and a few more that others found helpful for determining a solid overclock, and I would set up for one fft and 10-15 minute windows and let it go for a half hour or so, then switch fft's until I went through my list.

Now I freely admit that I have yet to find a specific set of fft's for Skylake, other than small fft's and the good old mainstay of 1344K, but I still prefer to run at minimum 10 minute repeating windows. Otherwise I could run 3 minute windows in P95 and pass with higher clocks.
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I saw a little ways back someone talking about running Prime (28.7) blend for 10 minutes. Are you guys using the default 3 minute window, or changing to longer windows? (by window I mean time to run each fft)
Just me, I guess, but I've always used 10-15 minute windows, and I prefer to test one fft at a time except of course if I run the small fft test.

For example, for Haswell there was a group of fft's I found to be very helpful and a few more that others found helpful for determining a solid overclock, and I would set up for one fft and 10-15 minute windows and let it go for a half hour or so, then switch fft's until I went through my list.

Now I freely admit that I have yet to find a specific set of fft's for Skylake, other than small fft's and the good old mainstay of 1344K, but I still prefer to run at minimum 10 minute repeating windows. Otherwise I could run 3 minute windows in P95 and pass with higher clocks.

If I'm doing a specific fft then I do 30-60 minute Windows. 90% ram.

If I'm doing a custom blend I do 5 minute Windows 90% ram for 10-12 hours. That should pass every fft length.
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