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yes sir
and the latest bios has only 7 LLC levels? someone either needs to correct the manual .. or the bios . tongue.gif
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what Motherboard should i buy or think is a good Motherboard? i tired of this one crap fuc#$"#$" MSI board Not more of 200.00 please
The ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming is great bang for your buck.
    
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ok, for example i OC 6600k to 4.4Ghz and CoreV BIOS1.325v But idle voltaje is 1.280 wha-smiley.png anybody now why?
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I noticed on RealBench Stress Test you can choose how much memory to stress...I have 16GB...should I choose all 16GB or leave it on the default of up to 4GB?
    
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ok, for example i OC 6600k to 4.4Ghz and CoreV BIOS1.325v But idle voltaje is 1.280 wha-smiley.png anybody now why?

Well are you on Override? You need to be on Adaptive for your voltages to go down on idle. I'm not sure if people on here recommend running Adaptive for normal use or not. You will have to wait and see what people say. I use Override mode right now though for my stress testing.
    
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and the latest bios has only 7 LLC levels? someone either needs to correct the manual .. or the bios . tongue.gif

I have been running prime95 28.7 blend tests (2 sessions of 2 passed self tests each) and am currently sitting at 4.7Ghz@1.44v, also passed 15m of realbench, and currently running 2 loops of x264.

previously I only used x264 and realbench and was able to reach 4.7 with about 1.38v, should I exclude p95 and try to downvolt again? it's just that x264 takes quite a while to crash, and p95 usually pumps out a rounding error a few minutes in... or should I switch out p95 for IBT? or the 4k x265?

(memory overclock next)

Edit:
I just got IBT and succesfully ran normal on 4.7@1.4(1.392) but it failed on high, ran high on 4.7@1.41(1.408) but failed very high. I ran all these for 10 loops. Which stress level should I aim for? or should I increase the # of loops?
Edited by rogergamer - 10/18/15 at 8:39pm
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I noticed on RealBench Stress Test you can choose how much memory to stress...I have 16GB...should I choose all 16GB or leave it on the default of up to 4GB?
if you have 16GB, run the stress with 16. BUt probably best to run something like HCI Memtest or Google Stressapptest (linux mint) before p95 so any errors are cpu and not cache-ram based. Why pull that kind of current thru your cpu if the ram is not solid. Also, you'd be surprised how many XMPs will not pass GSAT or HCI. wink.gif
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I have been running prime95 28.7 blend tests (2 sessions of 2 passed self tests each) and am currently sitting at 4.7Ghz@1.44v, also passed 15m of realbench, and currently running 2 loops of x264.
previously I only used x264 and realbench and was able to reach 4.7 with about 1.38v, should I exclude p95 and try to downvolt again? it's just that x264 takes quite a while to crash, and p95 usually pumps out a rounding error a few minutes in... or should I switch out p95 for IBT? or the 4k x265?
(memory overclock next)
if you want a high current stress p95 28.7 pulls over 120 watts on my 6600K rig at 4.6/4.6 With 1.440V adaptive (load voltage is 1.405-1.43 depending on the FFT). IBT is about the same if you use 12288MB of ram (out of 16GB). The reality is you will never do anything the nature of p95... unless you are calculating primes. wink.gif If you must, and believe p95 outs a logic stress you need on the cpu (not just a thermal load) then you gotta use it and live with the downclock.
Or just use the latest Prime95 and use the commands to disable FMA3 and AVX if you so wish. Read the undoco.txt file, zero obviously disables. Put that command into the local.txt file. This way you get rid of all bugs that have been fixed while giving you an option to test without FMA3 or AVX (FMA obviously won't work if you disable AVX).
CpuSupportsAVX=0 or 1
CpuSupportsFMA3=0 or 1
"E" series chips down clock for a reason (8 core and higher) with p95 is due to prefetch "seeing" AVX and/or FMA3 calls in the stack. Otherwise the current draw is a cpu killer.
p95 is fine for these 4 cores... It just rounds out the etching a bit - typically why folks have golden chips, at least for the first month. ohno-smiley.gif

For memory (and cache) HCI memtest to no less than 500% coverage is very good.
Enjoy! (but keep the temps under control. sustained load at 80-85C will wear on the CPU, and package temp can get very high)

IBT - again, make sure your ram is solid before going above 'Standard"
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if you have 16GB, run the stress with 16. BUt probably best to run something like HCI Memtest or Google Stressapptest (linux mint) before p95 so any errors are cpu and not cache-ram based. Why pull that kind of current thru your cpu if the ram is not solid. Also, you'd be surprised how many XMPs will not pass GSAT or HCI. wink.gif
if you want a high current stress p95 28.7 pulls over 120 watts on my 6600K rig at 4.6/4.6 With 1.440V adaptive (load voltage is 1.405-1.43 depending on the FFT). IBT is about the same if you use 12288MB of ram (out of 16GB). The reality is you will never do anything the nature of p95... unless you are calculating primes. wink.gif If you must, and believe p95 outs a logic stress you need on the cpu (not just a thermal load) then you gotta use it and live with the downclock.
Or just use the latest Prime95 and use the commands to disable FMA3 and AVX if you so wish. Read the undoco.txt file, zero obviously disables. Put that command into the local.txt file. This way you get rid of all bugs that have been fixed while giving you an option to test without FMA3 or AVX (FMA obviously won't work if you disable AVX).
CpuSupportsAVX=0 or 1
CpuSupportsFMA3=0 or 1
"E" series chips down clock for a reason (8 core and higher) with p95 is due to prefetch "seeing" AVX and/or FMA3 calls in the stack. Otherwise the current draw is a cpu killer.
p95 is fine for these 4 cores... It just rounds out the etching a bit - typically why folks have golden chips, at least for the first month. ohno-smiley.gif

For memory (and cache) HCI memtest to no less than 500% coverage is very good.
Enjoy! (but keep the temps under control. sustained load at 80-85C will wear on the CPU, and package temp can get very high)

IBT - again, make sure your ram is solid before going above 'Standard"

hm... in that case what's a good short stress test for when I'm still tinking various things?
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Thanks Jpm...I don't even have my XMP profile turned on yet...making sure my CPU OC is stable first. I've learned pretty quickly that this over clocking thing can get complicated very quickly and can start to take enormous amounts of time. At this point I am trying to keep it simple.
    
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Guys I am little confusing about amount of power phases on Z170. While ASUS Z170 Deluxe has loads of 20 power phase design, Maximus VIII Hero has only 8 phase. Does this mean Z170 Deluxe will provide more consistent OC?
 

Pretty sure the answer is no to everything you just said.

 

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Btw, anyone tried to measure Vcore with multimeter on Maximus VIII Hero? Is this can be done?

I believe it has already been done in the thread.

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P95 - the older versions? I hear the new version is a big no no?

Depends on who you ask. Some people really want a tough as nails test. Or a few other less common reasons.

 

It won't damage your CPU, it's just that if that's your bar for stability, often your overclock will be lower than others.

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The last one, 28.7

It was a little bit too hot for Haswell because the voltage regulators were integrated in the CPU. That's no loger the case with skylake so its perfectly safe, just keep an eye on your temperatures as with every benchmark,

Anybody that would run a test for the first time and not check the temperatures at all kindda had it coming. Throttling usually saves those people though.

 

Although at that rate, the culprit really was stressing on adaptive moreso than Prime. It would've been worse if the person had run Linpack.

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Hey. The Hero was the first Z170 motherboard I used. I would think that its LLC is close to that of other well implemented IR implementations, but in the first 5-10 motherboards reviews I did I did not write down LLC, I only ensured that load VCore was 1.3v when 1.3v was needed (to standardize power).

However, what i did find is that CPU-Z reads ASUS's VCore correctly, but reads everyone else incorrectly not sure if that is still the case.
lol I am not setting 1.6v VCore. How do you cool 1.6v? Do you have a phase change unit?



So you can try any of the four pairs of circled in red capacitor pins, these should provide the VCore. One pin is negative and the other is positive. Do it at your own risk, if you short out the leads you can cause damage. I have needlepoint extensions on my DMM or I solder some wires there and then tape off the leads so they don't move. Once in a while I will actually just use normal sized DMM probes, but they are much larger than needed.
Try running handbrake, if there is instability it wont finish the que and you wont get the average worker speed. It will just stop. Of course you should use a large video file.

1 got like 72C on 1.52v. 1.6v can probably be done under throttling.

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not p95, but realbench has a x264 encode module as part of the bench and stress tests.thumb.gif

The custom x264 test should be tougher than other x264 encoding tests though.

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So does one hour of Realbench really give you a decent idea of your stability?

No.

 

1 hour of P85 28.7, sure, only because that test is so hard to pass in the first place, and passing an hour actually means something.

 

Get higher overclocks with easier test, but tests have to be run for longer than 1 hour to really mean much. 


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14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
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Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
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Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
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i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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