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The bolded part is something I can add to the Skylake guide. It wasn't in the Haswell guide, and I now have a tool that measures total system power draw from the socket.

BTW:

I've tried your x265 test and I'm seeing slightly lower temperatures compared to x264 with 16 threads. With 16 threads it runs at like 99.9% load average on my 4670k. Is there an option for 64 threads?

I've updating both Skylake and Haswell threads with the new version of x264 stress test (it's uploading). Also merged the readmes and did a few things to make it easy to understand how to use, etc.

I'm editing the text explaining what our x264 test is. There's some redundancies in my text, etc which I will fix.
It's better to measure the power drawn from EPS.

Yeah x265 seems to run a little colder for me as well compared to the x264 test, but it's minimal. Probably because you guys have added tons of extras in the x264 to make it load more than a pure x264 does. I've only added a crop in the x265, no resize and the preset is medium since more complex presets were very slow and not even completing correctly. x265 is still a WIP so staying to the default preset is best, it works for me always the other don't. Threads aren't needed in x265, best setting for encoding is auto and that's what is used there. I'm not even sure Handbrake lets it be overridden but you can try I don't remember anymore. I've checked it, read up on it and kept it on auto. x265 has less parallelism than x264 and the multi threading is done differently in the algorithm. x265 outside of Handbrake is a major pain to use since it cannot process input in formats x264 was made to accept. One needs to setup, convert the source, etc. to get x265 working, using Handbrake gets rid of that since it's built in Handbrake.

If you run a pure x264 vs x265 in Handbrake without extra added features that aren't really part of the encoding, then x265 is harder and temperatures are higher.

I don't mind lower temperatures, x265 should be more complex to compute and I wanted to try it out.

stefxyz: link works for me.
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It's better to measure the power drawn from EPS.

What's EPS? Electric Power System?

 
Yeah x265 seems to run a little colder for me as well compared to the x264 test, but it's minimal. Probably because you guys have added tons of extras in the x264 to make it load more than a pure x264 does.  I've only added a crop in the x265, no resize and the preset is medium since more complex presets were very slow and not even completing correctly. x265 is still a WIP so staying to the default preset is best, it works for me always the other don't. Threads aren't needed in x265, best setting for encoding is auto and that's what is used there. I'm not even sure Handbrake lets it be overridden but you can try I don't remember anymore. I've checked it, read up on it and kept it on auto. x265 has less parallelism than x264 and the multi threading is done differently in the algorithm. x265 outside of Handbrake is a major pain to use since it cannot process input in formats x264 was made to accept. One needs to setup, convert the source, etc. to get x265 working, using Handbrake gets rid of that since it's built in Handbrake.

If you run a pure x264 vs x265 in Handbrake without extra added features that aren't really part of the encoding, then x265 is harder and temperatures are higher.

I don't mind lower temperatures, x265 should be more complex to compute and I wanted to try it out.

stefxyz: link works for me.

Raja from Asus kept talking about Handbrake, how it might actually be a harder stress test to pass than Prime95. Now that's something I didn't expect. Isn't Handbrake similar to our x264 test already? Similar-ish.

 

The link works for you, I think he's fixed the link. Works for me too now.

 
Originally Posted by stefxyz View Post

CPUs seem to be very different from CPU to CPU. Mine is stable at 4600 MHZ and 1.26 Volts. I have overwritten voltage manually in BIOS.

Here is a pic running Prime95 for 2 hours (I6700k, Asus 170 Deluxe, Corsair H110i GTX). Temps normally around 60 Celsius max peak at 70.

http://abload.de/img/alltagsocstefxyz58s5m.jpg




Ram runs at 2933 MHZ.

Also putting mine on more than 1.4 Volts increases Temps even with the water cooling to 90 Celsius peaks. So looks like chips vary a lot. I am very happy with mine.

Stefan

Yeah, link works for me now. What version of Prime95 is it?

 

So if you're doing 4.6 ghz @ 1.26v, you should be able to fit in 4.7ghz, maybe 4.8? You'll have to ditch that Prime95 though. Nice chip BTW, wish I'd get one like that.

 

 

 

I think this thread is still slightly buggy... It randomly puts me to the top of the page whenever I load the page...

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The thread is glitching out on me again... :rolleyes: Trying to edit my thread gives me a different message than what I actually have...

 

I'll go to sleep and work on this later. In the meantime the admins can look over what's going wrong.

 

This thread's coding is like a freakshow circus, lol. I don't even.

 

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What's EPS? Electric Power System?
Raja from Asus kept talking about Handbrake, how it might actually be a harder stress test to pass than Prime95. Now that's something I didn't expect. Isn't Handbrake similar to our x264 test already? Similar-ish.

The link works for you, I think he's fixed the link. Works for me too now.
Yeah, link works for me now. What version of Prime95 is it?

So if you're doing 4.6 ghz @ 1.26v, you should be able to fit in 4.7ghz, maybe 4.8? You'll have to ditch that Prime95 though. Nice chip BTW, wish I'd get one like that.



I think this thread is still slightly buggy... It randomly puts me to the top of the page whenever I load the page...
I would have to retest with the x264 test on the original voltages and see. But it was Handbrake x264 reencoding after a year of stable OC that started to crash the system.
It should be similar, sure but there can be some tweaks, features, different compiler, you would have to check Handbrake and how it's made, that could make it harder. It's definitely similar, but not the same. I'm not sure what x264 code they use as a source at the moment.

I get crappy load on all OCN pages, but that's mostly because the load time takes forever and focus for typing changes once the page loads, UGH! Best thing is to type text while the page is loading and hit backspace, which instead of removing a character goes to the previous page and it can discard the post, duh!
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The thread is glitching out on me again... rolleyes.gif  Trying to edit my thread gives me a different message than what I actually have... I've never had this many glitches in a page on OCN ever.

I'll go to sleep and work on this later. In the meantime the admins can look over what's going wrong.

This thread's coding is like a freakshow circus, lol. I don't even.
Maybe it's your unstable OC tongue.gif

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I don't get any circus while editing on OCN.

I see, you're playing with different inputs and switching in between. Don't. Most forums can't properly do it. Type in one, save. Then open again to edit and hope hope it will open correctly the different mode and won't mess up the layout or something. I can't see it now but I think it works for new threads/first posts but not editing other posts.
Edited by JackCY - 8/21/15 at 9:08am
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I would have to retest with the x264 test on the original voltages and see. But it was Handbrake x264 reencoding after a year of stable OC that started to crash the system.
It should be similar, sure but there can be some tweaks, features, different compiler, you would have to check Handbrake and how it's made, that could make it harder. It's definitely similar, but not the same. I'm not sure what x264 code they use as a source at the moment.

I get crappy load on all OCN pages, but that's mostly because the load time takes forever and focus for typing changes once the page loads, UGH! Best thing is to type text while the page is loading and hit backspace, which instead of removing a character goes to the previous page and it can discard the post, duh!
Maybe it's your unstable OC tongue.gif

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I don't get any circus while editing on OCN.

I'm convinced that my thread is going to disintegrate the fabric of OCN, and gradually a black hole will be formed centered around my thread and it will consume the rest of the forum. :devil:

 

I think Realbench has a section for Handbrake too. Not sure if it's straight up a copy or something else.

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Holy guacamole, I downloaded realbench just a short time ago. So I read your mention of it, ok let me test it... extract... why is it... taking... so... long! ***... why does it have half a gigabyte?!?! Must be someone at Asus botched together something, marketing it with their mobos now and it spawns around as people start to use it since they get with their mobo or their mobo OC software relies on it.
I'm not even sure I can run it since I don't have Asus mobo, lets see.

LOL, I get it, half a gig, why? Because they have copied almost every open source software in there...
Blender, gimp, luxmark, handbrake, 7z, VLC, ... jeez

Uses HandbrakeCLI for x264, the same way I'm using it for x265. You could do the same with x264 sure but I like the use of the standalone encoder better, it's just that it's nearly impossible to use the standalone x265 that I had to get it via HandbrakeCLI.
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Holy guacamole, I downloaded realbench just a short time ago. So I read your mention of it, ok let me test it... extract... why is it... taking... so... long! ***... why does it have half a gigabyte?!?! Must be someone at Asus botched together something, marketing it with their mobos now and it spawns around as people start to use it since they get with their mobo or their mobo OC software relies on it.
I'm not even sure I can run it since I don't have Asus mobo, lets see.

It works on non-Asus mobos, don't worry about that.

 

I find the quick download links for the stress tests to be useful. Even has v27.9 of Prime for those who want it. :D

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Can't you run the newest Prime95 and simply disable the advanced CPU features?

I just ran realbench and I have to say it is annoying! Sure I can disable some of the unnecessary stuff in benchmark, but why the heck does it have to play some Asian CPU parody while doing the test? I was like WTH is playing on my PC, did some tab in web browser got opened or my movie in background is playing, so I got the headphones on WTH is this. Moved the mouse and bench stops as they say it will, which is annoying in itself, and yep the silly audio was coming from the benchmark. Seriously, audio? Come on!

I'll try the stress portion of realbench, but the bench barely hit 70C, that's if I didn't hit that max with something else in the previous 7h of using the PC.

Alright, this is worthless. While stressing it runs Luxmark and Handbrake at the same time. Temperatures don't even hit 70C. Come on, I can run Luxmark and Handbrake on my own without the need of yet another graphical interface that will launch these for me. Someone copied free programs into one folder and executes them and calls it a bench and stress. I don't know, I don't like it. I think there are better ways to test and bench.

Right now I get about the same temperatures from x264 standalone stress and x265 Handbrake stress. If there is a difference or I observed one before it was really 1-2C max. You can check the average temperature after a prolonged period of time of running each after they hit a temperature peak.
Edited by JackCY - 8/21/15 at 9:36am
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Can't you run the newest Prime95 and simply disable the advanced CPU features?

I just ran realbench and I have to say it is annoying! Sure I can disable some of the unnecessary stuff in benchmark, but why the heck does it have to play some Asian CPU parody while doing the test? I was like WTH is playing on my PC, did some tab in web browser got opened or my movie in background is playing, so I got the headphones on WTH is this. Moved the mouse and bench stops as they say it will, which is annoying in itself, and yep the silly audio was coming from the benchmark. Seriously, audio? Come on!

I'll try the stress portion of realbench, but the bench barely hit 70C, that's if I didn't hit that max with something else in the previous 7h of using the PC.

Alright, this is worthless. While stressing it runs Luxmark and Handbrake at the same time. Temperatures don't even hit 70C. Come on, I can run Luxmark and Handbrake on my own without the need of yet another graphical interface that will launch these for me. Someone copied free programs into one folder and executes them and calls it a bench and stress. I don't know, I don't like it. I think there are better ways to test and bench.

I'll look for disabling the Haswell features on Prime and trying out ROG Realbench later, when the thread is fixed and I'm not tired. It's kindda hard to edit the thread when I can't edit the thread. I've used Realbench when I started the Haswell thread and it looked OK. Haven't touched it since though.

 

I was testing Linpack (because using it isn't 100% totally clear how), and by the time I got to checking the temps, I saw red text and temps near 100C, lol. That's Linpack for ya'.

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Linpack, yeah, you can download the libraries from Intel and they have a batch for testing there.
LinX and IBT use Linpack library as well, but often some older, you can replace them with the newest.
OCCT has some linpack option too but I'm not sure it runs as hot as the regular linpack.

Linpack as is the one downloaded from Intel, runs the hottest from my experience. It all changes on what calculations, what settings are used to run it. For me it goes 92C in an instant. It might also be hitting my power limit, not going to check again tongue.gif
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