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Well I failed x264 on 1.325V after 8 loops despite passing 8 hours of RealBench. As much as I have enjoyed OCing and the learning experience, it is beginning to get a bit frustrating. I am on my third week of trying to figure all this out and all these tests just take SO much time. At some point I may just turn my XMP on and start using the damn computer lol.
    
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Well I failed x264 on 1.325V after 8 loops despite passing 8 hours of RealBench. As much as I have enjoyed OCing and the learning experience, it is beginning to get a bit frustrating. I am on my third week of trying to figure all this out and all these tests just take SO much time. At some point I may just turn my XMP on and start using the damn computer lol.

Well, could've started with the recommended x264 and not run into that. 1.325v fail in 8 loop, try 1.35v. If it fails you're probably close. It'll take like 2 nights.

 

8hr Realbench is ok. More borderline IMO, but still acceptable for the chart.

 

 

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1.35V just seems really high for 4.6GHz? Also wondering if x264 is way overkill for my needs. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing - there is a guy over on Linus that runs XTU and has never had any issues with instability on a game. I mean RealBench is considered to be a go to test for many and I pass that but not x264....
    
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Hello

AI Suite sets a static cache multiplier. If using adaptive mode do not adjust the cache multiplier.
thanks - !
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1.35V just seems really high for 4.6GHz? Also wondering if x264 is way overkill for my needs. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing - there is a guy over on Linus that runs XTU and has never had any issues with instability on a game. I mean RealBench is considered to be a go to test for many and I pass that but not x264....
That's the right way to think about this... an Important thing to roll into that is memory stability. It's one of the few things that can corrupt an OS install, and do so without any overt signs. None of these compression programs use much ram - unless it's x265 with 4x and p-mode enabled (~10GB). DL a copy of HCI memtest, make sure the ram is stable at a lower multiplier... then just enjoy the rig. What's the worst that could happen? A 101 or 124 bsod? Not like your controlling the local Nuc reactor or anything.
Tho, find it hard to believe that after 8h of RB, it fell over in x264 (since x264 is running in RB while pushing OpenGL etc).
I don;t think 1.35V is high as long as your cooling can take it.

Every once in a while, open a command prompt and type in "sfc /scannow". If it reports anything but "No integrity violations found"... type in "dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth" and let it correct what it can. (you can read about this command at 10 forums or any windows site. thumb.gif
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thanks - !
That's the right way to think about this... an Important thing to roll into that is memory stability. It's one of the few things that can corrupt an OS install, and do so without any overt signs. None of these compression programs use much ram - unless it's x265 with 4x and p-mode enabled (~10GB). DL a copy of HCI memtest, make sure the ram is stable at a lower multiplier... then just enjoy the rig. What's the worst that could happen? A 101 or 124 bsod? Not like your controlling the local Nuc reactor or anything.
Tho, find it hard to believe that after 8h of RB, it fell over in x264 (since x264 is running in RB while pushing OpenGL etc).
I don;t think 1.35V is high as long as your cooling can take it.

Every once in a while, open a command prompt and type in "sfc /scannow". If it reports anything but "No integrity violations found"... type in "dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth" and let it correct what it can. (you can read about this command at 10 forums or any windows site. thumb.gif

Thanks jpm! I will check out HCI memtest - so is it cool if I use my XMP profile or should I enter it in manually? Just not familiar with how to do that and I can see that adding even more time to all this since I would need to research it.

Yea idk why it doesn't like x264 much - it does great with RealBench and then x264 just kills me

Man you know a lot about PCs haha
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Your cpu is not stable, it needs more voltage, increase Voltage in bigger steps, then after it's stable, decrease in small steps.
I found OCCT and Prime95 28.7 (blend test) most demanding tests and faster at finding instability.
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Thanks jpm! I will check out HCI memtest - so is it cool if I use my XMP profile or should I enter it in manually? Just not familiar with how to do that and I can see that adding even more time to all this since I would need to research it.

Yea idk why it doesn't like x264 much - it does great with RealBench and then x264 just kills me

Man you know a lot about PCs haha

I don't think x264 is 'way overkill'. I think Realbench and x264 are in the realm of sanity, just in different directions. You shouldn't be overclocking CPU and memory at the same time, so there is no need to run any memory test unless you want to check if your ram is faulty. It seems very unlikely to me that a CPU will bsod at higher clocks when the ram is at 2133 due to the ram.

 

I do run sfc /scannow in cmd after a crash but have not found a corrupted Windows to affect my stability. Remember, I was the guy that crashed his computer probably 100 times literally, maybe more maybe less for the guide and I was OK.

 

Having a guy come back and say 'I followed your recommendation for stress testing and I crashed while gaming' doesn't look very good on my part.

 

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Your cpu is not stable, it needs more voltage, increase Voltage in bigger steps, then after it's stable, decrease in small steps.
I found OCCT and Prime95 28.7 (blend test) most demanding tests and faster at finding instability.

We know that those tests are harder to pass. There's nothing new here.


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Yes, it's in your guide and hes asking for a faster way to find instability.
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Darkwizzie...I don't doubt what your saying. However, if I run XTU and I am stable at 1.27V and I run my day to day tasks and games for several weeks with no crashes, then isn't that better than running 1.35V if it isn't needed? That's just a lot more unnecessary heat.

For my memory I am going to just run my XMP profile.
    
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Yes, it's in your guide and hes asking for a faster way to find instability.

That's an incomplete picture. He was talking about how x264 test was already too hard to pass. Prime95 would be way worse than x264 for that problem.

 

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Darkwizzie...I don't doubt what your saying. However, if I run XTU and I am stable at 1.27V and I run my day to day tasks and games for several weeks with no crashes, then isn't that better than running 1.35V if it isn't needed? That's just a lot more unnecessary heat.

We have different incentives. I'm running a guide and a chart. With how finnicky stability can be, and this disconnect between being crashy and not ackowledging it (human psychology), I have to set up a standard so overclocks are somewhat comparable. Plus, a chart with people that crash and the settings not updated since makes my chart close to useless. If I get people coming back (even if it's like 30% of the people that took the test) and crash despite passing whatever I recommend, then that looks -very- bad on my part.

 

If you can confirm with good certainty that you are OK with XTU, then so be it. I still can't chart you in the main chart, I'd have to chart you in the secondary chart because rules are rules. I think you tested and passed Realbench for 8 hours, right? That is already enough to get into the main chart.

 

I still don't understand how ram can be a problem if it's set to 2133 while overclocking the CPU.

 

And dang, you responded quickly. I was still typing.

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