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That's an incomplete picture. He was talking about how x264 test was already too hard to pass. Prime95 would be way worse than x264 for that problem.

We have different incentives. I'm running a guide and a chart. With how finnicky stability can be, and this disconnect between being crashy and not ackowledging it (human psychology), I have to set up a standard so overclocks are somewhat comparable. Plus, a chart with people that crash and the settings not updated since makes my chart close to useless. If I get people coming back (even if it's like 30% of the people that took the test) and crash despite passing whatever I recommend, then that looks -very- bad on my part.

If you can confirm with good certainty that you are OK with XTU, then so be it. I still can't chart you in the main chart, I'd have to chart you in the secondary chart because rules are rules. I think you tested and passed Realbench for 8 hours, right? That is already enough to get into the main chart.

I still don't understand how ram can be a problem if it's set to 2133 while overclocking the CPU.

And dang, you responded quickly. I was still typing.

I fully understand...I could care less about being on the chart to be honest...I did pass realbench for 8 hours on 1.325V and I took a screen shot. I can certainly fill out the form if you'd like, but my goal was never to be on the chart. Nonetheless your guide and the knowledge shared here has been extremely helpful.

Not sure what your referring to with the issues with RAM. I just said I was going to turn on my XMP profile.
    
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That's an incomplete picture. He was talking about how x264 test was already too hard to pass. Prime95 would be way worse than x264 for that problem.

If you say it needs 1 hour OCCT or 5 hours x264 to be stable and he says he wants to be stable fast, why is he running x264 and not occt?
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1.35V just seems really high for 4.6GHz? Also wondering if x264 is way overkill for my needs. I use my PC for gaming and web browsing

Realbench uses x264 for the meat of CPU core testing, it's just evidently either not working as well for you as the updated x264 package or you got random chance making it look that way.

x264 is good to follow and get rock solid because it IS an actual use-case. It's quite a lot easier than Prime to make stable. It's quite widely used, even by fairly casual computer users (particularly gamers) - if you ever need to encode a video or livestream anything, you'll turn to x264 (even if it's buried in programs like OBS and Handbrake). It's also likely that some other random programs have x264-like characteristics, as it's only a medium-hardish difficulty test.

1.35 isn't high for 4.6ghz; If you're rock solid there, your CPU is little better than average. This is the skylake overclocking guide with statistics and OP shows median CPU at ~1.376v, 4.6ghz. Mine is evidently not rock solid there yet, though it's fairly close.
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Fair enough...as of now I think I will go by XTU and then do some real world use...if I have issues there I will turn to x264. It will be good data and will be interesting anyways.

Like I said I do no media encoding or live streaming whatsoever. I don't even edit photos lol.
    
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I fully understand...I could care less about being on the chart to be honest...I did pass realbench for 8 hours on 1.325V and I took a screen shot. I can certainly fill out the form if you'd like, but my goal was never to be on the chart. Nonetheless your guide and the knowledge shared here has been extremely helpful.

Not sure what your referring to with the issues with RAM. I just said I was going to turn on my XMP profile.

Yes, but if possible I'd like to get more people in my chart so the statistics are better.

 

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50 loops x264. 4.8/4.7 @ 1.4v
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easier? ... it's different than x264. Guys - there is no one single stress test that is system-wide brutal. Closest is Realbench. x264 is great if you do alot of encoding, but tells you little about cpu i/o, etc. At least on this platform you do not need to test peg/dmi if you run a high BCLK...
the four best IMO: x264 (although x265 is "harder"), HCI memtest, Google Stressapptest, REalbenchv2.4 : cpu core, ram/cache, ram, system-wide
you either did not read my post or can't comprehend what it says. .,.. slope change? doh.gif
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Praz took 5 min to do his. When I did my first 3770K it took 10... 9 min 57sec staring at it and 3sec to delid. I'll do this one sometime... you just need a machine vise, a piece of wood (pine) and a hammer. blinksmiley.gif
I've seen way more dead chips from a scratched trace, not to mention racked nerves. no razor fiddling again for me. IMO, it's worth doing yourself. it's a hobby - DIY and enjoy.


can someone donate 20 just for practice - I am sure I will be ok after biggrin.gif

I gotta admire the guys that do delid and more so to the average guy that does not have money too waste thumb.gif
post #3078 of 11359
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Well I failed x264 on 1.325V after 8 loops despite passing 8 hours of RealBench. As much as I have enjoyed OCing and the learning experience, it is beginning to get a bit frustrating. I am on my third week of trying to figure all this out and all these tests just take SO much time. At some point I may just turn my XMP on and start using the damn computer lol.

OC is a hobby for some and for others it is a free way of getting extra performance. I use tests to give me a temp and I only now use Aida 64, which is less strenuous. My computer is never gonna soak up 100% for hrs on end. And all these test are not real world usage. Don't get hung on all this! You done and others have done a lot more - way more than I ever do. Do i have probs with my computer or others in the past no!

Now enjoy your computer and stop being a computer hypochondriac tongue.gifthumb.gif
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Fails happen - and i'm thankful for that fail that happens after 5-50 hours of load, it lets you know that you're really close and can add X amount of voltage then not worry - especially with Skylake when it's mostly just Vcore.

Failing is not a failure, it's a successful test. If you load your CPU and you always crash after 10 seconds or you don't crash at all, you have learned nothing! If you run some stuff including 8 hours of realbench and an hour of x264 and then fail, you know you're very close - ~+0.02vcore is fine.
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I personally think this is the best way to delid. I have done it this way on at least 10 different ivy / haswell cpu's. 2cents.gif
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