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So any ideas on how warm RAM can be before it becomes a problem, I'm just going to brute-force more out of it by raising volts,at the moment 1.4v and yesterday one DIMM peaked at ~44 degrees (ambient ~30).
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So any ideas on how warm RAM can be before it becomes a problem, I'm just going to brute-force more out of it by raising volts,at the moment 1.4v and yesterday one DIMM peaked at ~44 degrees (ambient ~30).

1; Damn your ambients are hot. Like, how do you not die? You must sweat and drink a ton 24/7

2; I think 44c is fine, recall seeing 50c on ddr3. Not sure for ddr4. I do not suggest 24/7-ing >>1.4v on RAM with skylake at the moment because of relative lack of returns and concerns for IMC
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So any ideas on how warm RAM can be before it becomes a problem, I'm just going to brute-force more out of it by raising volts,at the moment 1.4v and yesterday one DIMM peaked at ~44 degrees (ambient ~30).

This can depend on tha ICs on the sticks, etc... but from the JDEC it looks like 85C is a guide for DDR4 data fidelity.

4.8.1 Normal temperature mode
Once this mode is enabled by setting bit A3=1 and A2=0 in MR4, Refresh commands should be issued to DDR4 SDRAM with the
refresh period equal to or shorter than tREFI of normal temperature range (0°C - 85°C). In this mode, the system guarantees that the
DRAM temperature does not exceed 85°C.
Below 45°C, DDR4 SDRAM may adjust internal refresh period to be longer than tREFI of the normal temperature range by skipping
external refresh commands with proper gear ratio. The internal refresh period adjustment is automatically done inside the DRAM and
user does not need to provide any additional control.


basically, the hotter they get, the more difficulty there is in stabilizing.
(yawn, right?)
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1; Damn your ambients are hot. Like, how do you not die? You must sweat and drink a ton 24/7

2; I think 44c is fine, recall seeing 50c on ddr3. Not sure for ddr4. I do not suggest 24/7-ing >>1.4v on RAM with skylake at the moment because of relative lack of returns and concerns for IMC

Guess I'm running one data point in that experiment. (recognizing that Intel will certify DDR4 XMP to 1.5V)
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So if I enable Adaptive voltage mode...how much will the voltage typically go over what is set in the BIOS?
    
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So if I enable Adaptive voltage mode...how much will the voltage typically go over what is set in the BIOS?

Depends on the load AFAIK.

You could try setting ~3.5ghz at 1.1v adaptive and testing yourself. Setting a max overclock with adaptive without a full understanding of how adaptive is behaving for you seems to be a very bad idea at the moment
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So if I enable Adaptive voltage mode...how much will the voltage typically go over what is set in the BIOS?

if the bios is working correctly, none.
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So that's good news.

You're never going to get 4.5giggles stable by raising only 0.015v considering 4.4giggles seems to be the last "easy" multiplier. If you want to chase 4.5giggles then start at 1.4v and see where you are, if I was a betting man, you'll still fail until ~1.41v.

If your cooling is sufficient, 1.41v isn't bad as evident from the OP. Plenty of people run that.

add: enable at least C3 and/or up to C6, they don't cause harm.

soo maybe if i goo up 1.41v is no to safe rigth?? i mean i have a nice cooling , but , i see some people get 4.5 on 6600k with 1.360v.... any suggestion?
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dammm i have made a lot of settings and now even one get stable at 4.5Ghz even 1.45 was my temps 85°C that´s soo higth , mmmmm soo maybe anything what can help??
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2; I think 44c is fine, recall seeing 50c on ddr3. Not sure for ddr4. I do not suggest 24/7-ing >>1.4v on RAM with skylake at the moment because of relative lack of returns and concerns for IMC

But is vRAM tied to IMC, isn't that what SA/IO does (I don't know)?
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This can depend on tha ICs on the sticks, etc... but from the JDEC it looks like 85C is a guide for DDR4 data fidelity.

basically, the hotter they get, the more difficulty there is in stabilizing.
(yawn, right?)

Thanks, not much of a leap but 3333 is stable. Tried 3200C15 but that's worse than 3333C16, 3466 didn't want to play ball.
Edited by error-id10t - 10/23/15 at 12:56am
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