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Mr. Darkwizzie - XTU for what? 10hrs? 12hrs? to call an oc stable enough to make the ss? smile.gif
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DDR4 XMP certs are for DDR4 whether used on HWE or SKL
what MB? (fillouot rig builder)
IDK, since the value is likely substituted anyway," tRAS is the minimum time the row should be active. The row needs to be active for the entire duration it takes to perform tRCD, CAS and tRTP. Any lower and the chipset has to apply the minimum value arbitrarily - there may be an additional penalty for the collision as well.
So while it may look nice in screenshots to set tRAS to some low value (below the min threshold) in reality it is not helping and may be worse than setting the correct minimum value instead on relying on the IMC to correct the timing issue." - Raja (ram guru)
We had a long discussion and tutorial from Raja about this in the HWE thread when the cpu launched.
Depends on how cpu bound the game is, and where game physics is offloaded to.
if it's not in this aida panel, then it's not coded. I have a kit that does not show any value (so aida does not show a blank field).

It's just related to the heat flux from the strress test. IBT generates way more BTWs/time than x264. And a delid greatly improves heat transfer (flux).

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btw, this is looking real good and very "snappy" wink.gif


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btw, this is looking real good and very "snappy" wink.gif


They've not included that in AIDA for these sticks. Of note, every time you post AIDA I feel like I need to tinker more and try and get the RAM to the next step so I can try and play the game at the same level so please stop lol (jokes)
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ASUS Z170-A

AFAIK it's only on the ROG boards. I've looked at them and they don't really make sense to me as the options are 1.35v and then a jump to 1.5v, nothing in-between voltage-wise and I already know 1.35v isn't going to let me push them while 1.5v is too scary for me personally.
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IDK, since the value is likely substituted anyway," tRAS is the minimum time the row should be active. The row needs to be active for the entire duration it takes to perform tRCD, CAS and tRTP. Any lower and the chipset has to apply the minimum value arbitrarily - there may be an additional penalty for the collision as well.
So while it may look nice in screenshots to set tRAS to some low value (below the min threshold) in reality it is not helping and may be worse than setting the correct minimum value instead on relying on the IMC to correct the timing issue." - Raja (ram guru)
We had a long discussion and tutorial from Raja about this in the HWE thread when the cpu launched.

But 9-9-9-24 is a common RAM timing for ddr3 at ~1333-1600mhz
Edited by Cyro999 - 10/24/15 at 5:17pm
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stress testing with Prime95 28.7 when my computer restarted. No blue screen, just cut off then turned back on. Usually if the core was unstable Prime95 would say hardware failure and not reboot.

Could happen if it's unstable, but verify that "sum error checking" and "round off checking" are selected in prime95 advanced options.
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ASUS Z170-A
ah, only ROG. sorry.
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They've not included that in AIDA for these sticks. Of note, every time you post AIDA I feel like I need to tinker more and try and get the RAM to the next step so I can try and play the game at the same level so please stop lol (jokes)
AFAIK it's only on the ROG boards. I've looked at them and they don't really make sense to me as the options are 1.35v and then a jump to 1.5v, nothing in-between voltage-wise and I already know 1.35v isn't going to let me push them while 1.5v is too scary for me personally.
lol - that's called "OC...D" wink.gif
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But 9-9-9-24 is a common RAM timing for ddr3 at ~1333-1600mhz
Yeah, and what would tRTP need to be for 26 to be valid? it will take too long to explain...but it's not actually running 24 (unless tRTP=6). And +/- 2 can still be valid. Explained in depth in the JEDEC standard for DDR4 and back some months in the HW-E thread.

some light reading wink.gif : JESD79-4.pdf 3864k .pdf file
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Hey everyone! I'm currently overclocking my 6600k, just got it yesterday. I was at 4.7Ghz with 4.6Ghz Cache at 1.354v, stress testing with Prime95 28.7 when my computer restarted. No blue screen, just cut off then turned back on. Usually if the core was unstable Prime95 would say hardware failure and not reboot. Is this instability of another component or is it my power supply?

Also in my BIOS the option to adjust the multi and voltage say auto and I can't figure out how to manually adjust so I've been doing my overclocking through Intel XTU. I have a Gigabyte Z170X Gaming 3.

Lastly I see the average temps but what are some of y'all's personal limitations when it comes to core temps?

that may be the MB PL OCP. In bios set the long duration power limit to the max value the board allows if you have not already.
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They've not included that in AIDA for these sticks. Of note, every time you post AIDA I feel like I need to tinker more and try and get the RAM to the next step so I can try and play the game at the same level so please stop lol (jokes)
AFAIK it's only on the ROG boards. I've looked at them and they don't really make sense to me as the options are 1.35v and then a jump to 1.5v, nothing in-between voltage-wise and I already know 1.35v isn't going to let me push them while 1.5v is too scary for me personally.
Yeah - it;s for the extreme guys. Us mortals can use the timings and lower voltage running a lower frequency. So, I'll load the timings for 3600@1.5V and run 3500@1.45V with tuned up timinsgs (tighten cas and correct tRAS etc). If help set the secondary timings which are too much of a PIA to deal with if the aim is a 24/7 Ram OC that's stable. For short term - they're fine. Mainly provide good starting points. (oh, the presets DO NOT SET THE VOLTAGE)
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So I got my CPU OC settings all figured out finally and then I put the voltage mode to adaptive. My OC is setup for 1.29V and 4.6GHz - shouldn't my Vcore be showing it at much lower than 1.29V when just at idle? I am in HWINFO right now and it shows my Vcore as being around 1.288V. I thought with Adaptive it lowers the voltage when your at idle?

I changed my power options min process state to 0% too - is this correct?
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So I got my CPU OC settings all figured out finally and then I put the voltage mode to adaptive. My OC is setup for 1.29V and 4.6GHz - shouldn't my Vcore be showing it at much lower than 1.29V when just at idle? I am in HWINFO right now and it shows my Vcore as being around 1.288V. I thought with Adaptive it lowers the voltage when your at idle?

I changed my power options min process state to 0% too - is this correct?

open windows power plans> select Balanced. If that doesn;t fix it, open adv power plan, set min processor state to 0%. thumb.gif
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open windows power plans> select Balanced. If that doesn;t fix it, open adv power plan, set min processor state to 0%. thumb.gif

Is Balanced the recommended plan to run instead of the high performance plan? So I think it is working...in HWINFO my Core #0 - Core #3 VID drops to like .835V and the clock drops down a lot too...whats weird is that if I scroll down to "Vcore" it still shows 1.288V - same with CPU-Z. Maybe that is referring to what is set in the BIOS though...
    
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