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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

@AverdanOriginal if you refer to me, ram is at 3466, not 2666.
If the kit can manage the added heat cache OC will generate, you can run quite higher than 1.325V vcore. Try setting min and max cache to the same value until you find the voltage needed, then set min to auto.

@Jpmboy No I was refering to phoboss since he was getting 1.2v (something) of VSA and his RAM were "only" at 2666MHz. So I suggested it could be the BCLK
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something is not set correctly if the load vcore is higher than set in bios, unless you are running the highest LLC value (which will increase load vcore). VSA is higher because it is on auto - right? Generally the Auto rules have to cover a spectrum of cpu quality (and versions - like i3, i5 etc) that said, 1.2V is fine, i would not run 1.3V VSA. Depending on the ram frequency, you can try 1.0-1.2V for normal use. For 3466 and 3500 ram freq (from a 3200 4x4GB kit) 1.212V is what my setup needs.
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Right now I'm running these settings:
Vcore 1.29V in Bios, which results in 1.312V under load
Multi to 45
LLC 5
Everything else is on Auto
which gives me the VCCIO of 1.144V and the VSA of 1.224V

But looking at the spreadsheet on page 1, I see that a lot of people (Number 7, 9, 10, 13, 24, 27 an so forth) with an LLC of 5, have more Vcore under load than they have set in the BIOS.
Looking at this post here I'd say thats normal. ASUS has 8 LLC settings, so 5 should be like "high" in his graphs, which would give me a little more VCore under load than it does under idle right?
should I maybe go down to LLC 4?
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Originally Posted by AverdanOriginal View Post


VCCIO and VSA are for high RAM overclocks and stability on BCLK overclocks. Since your RAM are @ 2666, have you overclocked with BCLK and/or Core Multi?

just multi. BCLK is on Auto (100)


I'm so confused biggrin.gif
Edited by phoboss - 11/5/15 at 2:09am
post #3623 of 11360
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Originally Posted by SteveRo View Post

wow - 6.2ghz @ 1.94v - ln2 or maybe cascade?
Si-1 had LN2 on that run. nearing 2V!
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Originally Posted by AverdanOriginal View Post

@Jpmboy No I was refering to phoboss since he was getting 1.2v (something) of VSA and his RAM were "only" at 2666MHz. So I suggested it could be the BCLK
NP, was just asking. and you are correct - he can probably lower vsa
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Originally Posted by phoboss View Post

Right now I'm running these settings:
Vcore 1.29V in Bios, which results in 1.312V under load
Multi to 45
LLC 5
Everything else is on Auto
which gives me the VCCIO of 1.144V and the VSA of 1.224V

But looking at the spreadsheet on page 1, I see that a lot of people (Number 7, 9, 10, 13, 24, 27 an so forth) with an LLC of 5, have more Vcore under load than they have set in the BIOS.
Looking at this post here I'd say thats normal. ASUS has 8 LLC settings, so 5 should be like "high" in his graphs, which would give me a little more VCore under load than it does under idle right?
should I maybe go down to LLC 4?
just multi. BCLK is on Auto (100)
I'm so confused biggrin.gif
lol - don;t be. you can probably l.ower VSA to 1.175-1.2V. if it misbehaves 1.2125 should be plenty. Have a look at the OC guide(s) here
Edited by Jpmboy - 11/5/15 at 4:20am
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One of my 1st tests of Silicon Lottery provided 48x delided 6600K. Very happy so far. So going from my 6700K to this 6600K (no HT, delid) I am seeing load temps ~18C lower rolleyes.gif

Looks like ~7C for HT and 11C for delid - seems like a lot! I'm thinking I should send my 6700K to SL for delid! smile.gif

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edit - Sent my 6700K in to SL for Delid, 05nov15 - should have it back in a week or so biggrin.gif
Edited by SteveRo - 11/5/15 at 9:43am
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Ok I was just concerned that it might impact stability or maybe even damaging to my CPU/Board if it was this so much higher than what most people say it should be on stock.

I have it stable for about an hour of prime with a small FFT right now. I'll try lowering the Vcore some more and then probably just settle for 4.5GHz. Since I don't think my D14 can keep me below 90° on 4.6GHz@1.38V
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Ok I was just concerned that it might impact stability or maybe even damaging to my CPU/Board if it was this so much higher than what most people say it should be on stock.

I have it stable for about an hour of prime with a small FFT right now. I'll try lowering the Vcore some more and then probably just settle for 4.5GHz. Since I don't think my D14 can keep me below 90° on 4.6GHz@1.38V

That's 90C @ P95 v28.7? Then consider using a test that's not as hot.

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Yes 90°C on Prime 28.7.
I will try different tests, but in the end, even 85 would be too much for my taste and aside from that, what is 100MHz really gonna accomplish performance wise.

But I'm just starting right now. Just got the new board yesterday. We'll see how it goes.
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Yes 90°C on Prime 28.7.
I will try different tests, but in the end, even 85 would be too much for my taste and aside from that, what is 100MHz really gonna accomplish performance wise.

But I'm just starting right now. Just got the new board yesterday. We'll see how it goes.

At such high temps, I think a 10C drop is within the realm of possibility.

 

I'll bring up the chart here for easy reference. My temps are pretty low, so at higher temps there should be a bigger difference between different tests.

 

Your call, of course.


Edited by Darkwizzie - 11/5/15 at 5:46am
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something is not set correctly if the load vcore is higher than set in bios, unless you are running the highest LLC value (which will increase load vcore). VSA is higher because it is on auto - right? Generally the Auto rules have to cover a spectrum of cpu quality (and versions - like i3, i5 etc) that said, 1.2V is fine, i would not run 1.3V VSA. Depending on the ram frequency, you can try 1.0-1.2V for normal use. For 3466 and 3500 ram freq (from a 3200 4x4GB kit) 1.212V is what my setup needs.
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My Hero has had higher output than is set in BIOS since day one with 902 BIOS...and that's using either LLC 4 or 5.
Like I said before, not that big a deal, but slightly annoying until you get a feel for how the board works.
Here's some examples I charted while looking for a 4.8 stable OC, all are Adaptive with LLC4:
Left column setpoint in BIOS, right column is output (under load) in Windows.
1.440 1.456
1.445 1.472
1.450 1.472
1.455 1.488
1.460 1.488
1.465 1.488
1.470 1.504


Not huge but when I didn't know what the board was going to do, I only increased Vcore in .005 steps.
Also notice the MB increments voltage in .016v steps. I just accept that is what it is going to do. wink.gif
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At such high temps, I think a 10C drop is within the realm of possibility.



I'll bring up the chart here for easy reference. My temps are pretty low, so at higher temps there should be a bigger difference between different tests.

Your call, of course.
Thx for chart, i get to 80c in prime 27.9 small ftt at just 4.5ghz vcore 1.33v at max fans with my dh-n14 cooler, and i know i have seated cooler correctly.
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