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Hey, what does HWiNFO64 call VCCIO and System Agent voltages, I think it's VTT and VCCSA just not 100% sure?

Also, what would be a good starting number to put these on if I want to bump my memory up a bit (from 2400mhz to 2666mhz) or should I just leave them on auto?

I know these are basic questions, just never touched memory in the past.

Assuming HWiNFO64 call 'VCCIO - VTT' and 'System Agent - VCCSA' my defaults are the following when running stock XMP 2400mhz at idle:

VTT - 1.024v
VCCSA - 1.088v

I did try bumping my memory up to 2666mhz and the voltages went up to the following at idle (they are set on auto in bios atm):

VTT - 1.176v
VCCSA - 1.216v

Is this normal or can they be a lot lower for 2666mhz?
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Originally Posted by jaket1980 View Post

Hey, what does HWiNFO64 call VCCIO and System Agent voltages, I think it's VTT and VCCSA just not 100% sure?

Also, what would be a good starting number to put these on if I want to bump my memory up a bit (from 2400mhz to 2666mhz) or should I just leave them on auto?

I know these are basic questions, just never touched memory in the past.

Assuming HWiNFO64 call 'VCCIO - VTT' and 'System Agent - VCCSA' my defaults are the following when running stock XMP 2400mhz at idle:

VTT - 1.024v
VCCSA - 1.088v

I did try bumping my memory up to 2666mhz and the voltages went up to the following at idle (they are set on auto in bios atm):

VTT - 1.176v
VCCSA - 1.216v

Is this normal or can they be a lot lower for 2666mhz?

Looks like you're on the right track about the SA and VTT. Well, System Agent abbreviated is just SA, so I'm not surprised. But I thought VCCIO would be CPU IO, but the voltages are too high to make sense.

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My Hero has had higher output than is set in BIOS since day one with 902 BIOS...and that's using either LLC 4 or 5.
Like I said before, not that big a deal, but slightly annoying until you get a feel for how the board works.
Here's some examples I charted while looking for a 4.8 stable OC, all are Adaptive with LLC4:
Left column setpoint in BIOS, right column is output (under load) in Windows.
1.440 1.456
1.445 1.472
1.450 1.472
1.455 1.488
1.460 1.488
1.465 1.488
1.470 1.504


Not huge but when I didn't know what the board was going to do, I only increased Vcore in .005 steps.
Also notice the MB increments voltage in .016v steps. I just accept that is what it is going to do. wink.gif
do you see this effect (which is related to a mis-code in bios as explained by Raja) using manual mode vcore? (probably not - and droop should work)
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Thx for chart, i get to 80c in prime 27.9 small ftt at just 4.5ghz vcore 1.33v at max fans with my dh-n14 cooler, and i know i have seated cooler correctly.
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Looks like you're on the right track about the SA and VTT. Well, System Agent abbreviated is just SA, so I'm not surprised. But I thought VCCIO would be CPU IO, but the voltages are too high to make sense.

Hey Darkwizzie,

First off, thanks for the reply and all the effort you've put into this thread and the Haswell one. I've read up on ALOT of your work/posts lol, so appreciate the reply smile.gif

Secondly, sorry but I don't quite understand lol? Are you saying I am correct that SA is VCCSA, and VCCIO is VTT in HWiNFO but the voltages are too high to make sense. Do you mean my stock voltages are too high, or when I bump it up to 2666mhz while SA and VCCIO are left on auto?

Also, I can't find anywhere CPU IO in HWiNFO, nor my bios? I am running an ASUS board btw and all I can see is System Agent and VCCIO?
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

do you see this effect (which is related to a mis-code in bios as explained by Raja) using manual mode vcore? (probably not - and droop should work)
Check under the spoilers in post #1... more good stuff there!
No...manual is pretty close. I did not make any notes to keep, but in a post quite a ways back I noted where I did a check between BIOS, DMM & HWINFO with manual Vcore and they were all pretty darn close.
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Hey Darkwizzie,

First off, thanks for the reply and all the effort you've put into this thread and the Haswell one. I've read up on ALOT of your work/posts lol, so appreciate the reply smile.gif

Secondly, sorry but I don't quite understand lol? Are you saying I am correct that SA is VCCSA, and VCCIO is VTT in HWiNFO but the voltages are too high to make sense. Do you mean my stock voltages are too high, or when I bump it up to 2666mhz while SA and VCCIO are left on auto?

Also, I can't find anywhere CPU IO in HWiNFO, nor my bios? I am running an ASUS board btw and all I can see is System Agent and VCCIO?

Thank you for the kind words.

 

I believe you are correct that VCCSA is SA and I think it looks plausible that VCCIO is VTT. By high voltage I mean, I would have intuitively guessed that VCCIO would be "CPU IO" reading in HWinfo, but the voltage reading HWinfo shows for CPU IO is too high for that to be VCCIO.

 

I am running Asus Hero. Are you running the same board? My HWinfo also hasn't been updated in a month, that may be the difference. Your stock VCCSA and VCCIO voltages look fine to me.


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VCCIO in HWINFO = IMC
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No...manual is pretty close. I did not make any notes to keep, but in a post quite a ways back I noted where I did a check between BIOS, DMM & HWINFO with manual Vcore and they were all pretty darn close.

lol - it looks like you adapted to the bios issue (has to do with how the turbo voltage is added up - seems joint fault for Intel and ASUS). Most folks have stuck with manual until a bios fix is out. thumb.gif
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here's something else that's kinda weird (at least to me)
When I started testing I had my multi at 45, Vcore at 1.28V and LLC on 5 which gave me a prime error after about 10 minutes.
right now I'm at 45 with a Vcore of 1.31V and LLC of 5. So far its running good. Prime small fft for about 20 mins.
here's the weird thing, just for giggles I tried setting the LLC to 4 while the Vcore was at 1.32V and I got a BSOD during login saying memory_management.
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Had the pc spontaneously reboot on me today while sitting idle with AfterBurner open. Installed WinDBG to try and troubleshoot but I guess I'm too old and dumb to get much sense out of it. BlueScreenView just showed some type of ntoskrnl error. doh.gif

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