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Linpack, yeah, you can download the libraries from Intel and they have a batch for testing there.
LinX and IBT use Linpack library as well, but often some older, you can replace them with the newest.
OCCT has some linpack option too but I'm not sure it runs as hot as the regular linpack.

Linpack as is the one downloaded from Intel, runs the hottest from my experience. It all changes on what calculations, what settings are used to run it. For me it goes 92C in an instant. It might also be hitting my power limit, not going to check again tongue.gif

You've seen this chart right?

 

And that was on 1.25v, and I'm on I think 1.35v or 1.3v atm. Carnage.

Probably have to update the x264 temperature bar.

 

Talk to you later. Gotta sleep and hopefully this gives the admins time to fix this thread.

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*cough* since like 90s, OCing is all the same. Adjust voltages and clocks. That's it. No more HW changes possible, and they were doing the same thing too XD I don't know why people need a guide for increasing and decreasing a few parameters biggrin.gif
I wonder what do you cool the CPU with?
With a full load from x264 that thing must be cooking and running linpack a suicide without a delid and water cooling or sub zero.

Or are the Skylake chips that might actually have a worse TIM again than DC somehow magically running lower temps while consuming more power?
I don't get it.
1.4V+ that's nuts.

These days it's not as simple as running Prime95 overnight after setting 2 variables. At least not if you want to get the most out of your CPU and be sure it can handle all sorts of varying workloads that use different parts of the architecture. Having some statistics about everybody's overclock would be helpful as well as that can give you a realistic target. Of course background reading is interesting as well as hardware enthusiasts. smile.gif

I'm using a Noctua D14, until I get all my watercooling components for this rig which should be soon. And yes, it does appear Skylake runs colder compared to previous generations. I would never run 1.45v on my old haswell rig but it's suggested to be the upper limit for Skylake by very open ASUS branded overclocking guides.

Right now at 1.47v and 4.8GHz set in the bios (1.488+ in CPUz) it never goes above 70c while playing games.
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I use Prime95v286 and then custom:



Just now I also ran 2 hours the Asus ROG Stresstest with no issues. I can easily do 4700 at 1.32 and probably more but for my everyday use I prefer a silent system with low temps and fan rpms below 1000. For silence I exchanged all fans on my Corsair Airbide 540 and the H110i GTX with 2 Noctua PF-14 and 3 beQuite Silentwings 2 for the case . WIth this I have a very nice and quite system with still good power.

Very happy with my low voltage. Interestingly when I run voltages over 1.36 my temps however go much higher then of a lot of guys showing pictures on screens here. So I can do higher MHZ on lower voltage but with temps that others have with higher voltage. Is this normal?
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Yeah the TIM job varies. Sometimes it's awful, sometimes the opposite.

I want to see how SL scales with voltage and what temperatures there are for the voltages. From the little delid info it seemed like the TIM was back to the HW quality, which was worse than DC and the gains on SL seemed to be like with HW.
I find it strange that so many seem to push SL over 1.35V, even more in the range of 1.4xV. While with Haswell going over 1.35V was rare and the chips cooked cooked cooked like an oven. I know the voltage has moved off again but it shouldn't be that big of a difference on temperatures, noticeable, sure.
I guess we will see after a year how people do with the 1.4V+ and whether the degradation scares them again biggrin.gif

Prime95, you can use the latest version but if you want to avoid AVX etc. and keep temps. down, you need to read the readme files and look into the options that aren't in the GUI, it's more really set via the config files than GUI:
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The program supports many different code paths for LL testing depending on
the CPU type. It also has a few different factoring code paths. You can
force the program to choose a specific code path by setting the proper
combination of these settings in local.txt:
CpuSupportsRDTSC=0 or 1
CpuSupportsCMOV=0 or 1
CpuSupportsPrefetch=0 or 1
CpuSupportsSSE=0 or 1
CpuSupportsSSE2=0 or 1
CpuSupports3DNow=0 or 1
CpuSupportsAVX=0 or 1
CpuSupportsFMA3=0 or 1
CpuSupportsFMA4=0 or 1
This shouldn't be necessary though as the program uses the CPUID instruction
to see if the CPU supports these features.
There are tons of features one can change in Prime95 in the configs and create presets.

Since most people don't read the txt files they rather download the older Prime95 that doesn't support the new features than to go and disable/change it in the newer versions via proper config.

Anyway it's really the small FFT sizes that cook in P95.
Edited by JackCY - 8/21/15 at 11:01am
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Almost 3 hour test done.
After like 1 hour, Worker #4 stopped. After 2 hours Worker #8 stopped. The temp has reached 89c from this test.

Why this? Too low Vcore? ^^

Im now running 1.420v and still with LLC Level 6. At full load the Vcore goes up to 1.456v.



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Worker stopped means unstable. It's not as bad as black screen, freeze or restart but it's unstable. You need more voltage or lower clock.
Custom waterloop, hmm I guess that can handle those insane 1.4V+ biggrin.gif That thing must be a power hog XD
Personally I abort the test when ever one of the workers fails. There is no reason to leave it running more.
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Almost 3 hour test done.
After like 1 hour, Worker #4 stopped. After 2 hours Worker #8 stopped. The temp has reached 89c from this test.

Why this? Too low Vcore? ^^

Im now running 1.420v and still with LLC Level 6. At full load the Vcore goes up to 1.456v.




Yours is not stable.
I have this at 4600 MHz too.
I couldnt get it stable with prime95 1344FTT shown above.
Highest for me those 4560 with blk 190 @ 1.4 in bios loadline auto.
There was no point for me in exceeding 1.4 on a new chip.


Try that maybe.
It just seem like we both have a bad chip.
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Bad? lol that's an average chip right there IMHO. Can't hope to get a an above average great chip if you only buy one CPU and don't do any binning from multiple samples.
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Finally have a 6700k on the way so I hope to contribute soon, but so far from reading threads like this I feel very, very underwhelmed.

People needing near max recommended voltages just for 500-600 mhz overclocks?
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So far, not looking too good, yeah. Thought the range was supposed to be 4.5-4.8. Although some of you guys probably could squeeze in another 100mhz from ditching prime... (like srsly).

 

I've reverted the OP to an earlier version to sidestep the edit glitch I've been having. Back to work. :o 

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Bad? lol that's an average chip right there IMHO. Can't hope to get a an above average great chip if you only buy one CPU and don't do any binning from multiple samples.

Are you running Skylake atm? Your siggy says otherwise. I'm trying to figure out if adaptive voltage causes vcore to explode on Prime.

 

I don't see an option to turn off features which will make v28.5 behave like v27.9 under stressing.


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