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Thought id report in on how my 6700k is going. Ive switched to realbench for stability testing and going to call it stable after a 8 hour run. Been beating up this chip for a good 4+ days now.

Currently at 4.6GHz, 4.0GHz uncore with 1.315v in bios, got my LLC set to level 5 (8 levels on this board) and it's pretty spot on with the voltage. Max temp its hit is 77c on the hottest core. Shall report back once its all good! Was attempting 4.7 but it was needing 1.39+ vcore just to pass 15mins in realbench, so gonna settle with 4.6 till I see how others go.
Edited by shredzy - 8/21/15 at 9:22pm
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Thought id report in on how my 6700k is going. Ive switched to realbench for stability testing and going to call it stable after a 8 hour run. Been beating up this chip for a good 4+ days now.

Currently at 4.6GHz, 4.0GHz uncore with 1.315v in bios, got my LLC set to level 5 (8 levels on this board) and it's pretty spot on with the voltage. Max temp its hit is 77c on the hottest core. Shall report back once its all good! Was attempting 4.7 but it was needing 1.39+ vcore just to pass 15mins in realbench, so gonna settle with 4.6 till I see how others go.

Excellent, I hope to see you back here telling us what settings you used!

 

Right now I'm still using the same charting form as my Haswell thread, but that will probably change with time. The chart is totally empty and it's too lonely in there. Be the first in the chart! :thumb:

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Username:
CPU Model:
Core Multiplier: [If you used Blck strap, put what Blck and mention your resulting frequency]
CPU VID: This is the CPU core voltage value you input into BIOS.
Vcore: This is the CPU Vcore reading from Hwinfo or HWMonitor under load. "Load" depends on what you're stressing.
Uncore Multiplier:
Uncore Voltage:
Input Voltage: [aka VCCIN, Vrin, Eventual Input Voltage] (Is this even in Skylake anymore?)
Cooling Solution: [If you are delidded, note it here.]
Stability Test: [Any test is OK, synthetic or not. IF YOU DO NOT LIST HOW LONG THE TEST IS RUN YOU WILL MAKE ME CRY.]
Batch Number: [What country? Please list the entire batch number if you can.]
Ram Speed: [Timings if you know them.]
Ram Voltage: [If stock, ignore this.]
Motherboard: [Optional. Not required to be charted, not required for picture verification.]
LLC Setting: [If you didn't change default, say AUTO]

 

 

 

 

On an unrelated note, I've made changes to the guide in the past several hours that should make the guide acceptable for general use. Of course, I intend to do far more testing once my chip is in to hopefully improve the guide in many ways.


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*cough* since like 90s, OCing is all the same. Adjust voltages and clocks. That's it. No more HW changes possible, and they were doing the same thing too XD I don't know why people need a guide for increasing and decreasing a few parameters biggrin.gif

I suggest people have a look at this review. It is the only one I've seen where they took the time to go beyond just adding voltage and increasing he multplier. The BCLK is involved too which affects the cache and as you will see, some benchmarks can benefit greatly from this, even outperforming the 8 core 16 thread i7 X5960.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_skylake_i5_6600k_i7_6700k_1151_z170_review/6

I think one of the reasons they managed such a high BCLK is due to using the integrated graphics chip and having nothing in the PCIe slots.
Edited by Deders - 8/21/15 at 10:05pm
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Hey, with Haswell some folks were trying to run 46/46 core/uncore and that was enough to cause instability. Extra vrin was rarely needed except for 1.4v and up, but it's still there.

You have to remember that a lot of sites/guides at launch were using 1.7 - 1.8 or even 1.65 VRIN without LLC, so it would droop by 0.05 - 0.1. Most people had no idea to tweak that stuff, hell most of them wouldn't do it right even when presented with a list of instructions. Early in the thread it was more about figuring out what worked and why it worked tongue.gif

I needed LLC and increase VRIN by ~0.1 for my normal OC otherwise it wouldn't be stable no matter what i did. While testing for max OC's the chip would take, i needed to add a lot more.
Edited by Cyro999 - 8/21/15 at 10:00pm
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I suggest people have a look at this review. It is the only one I've seen where they took the time to go beyond just adding voltage and increasing he multplier. The BCLK is involved too which affects the cache and as you will see, some benchmarks can benefit greatly from this, even outperforming the 8 core 16 thread i7 X5960.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_skylake_i5_6600k_i7_6700k_1151_z170_review/6

Already wrote a bit on BLCK and I just finished reading that link.

 

When all is said and done, I'm 100% sure I will have blck testing in the guide, tried and tested.

 

Quote:
 I think one of the reasons they managed such a high BCLK is due to using the integrated graphics chip and having nothing in the PCIe slots.

BLCK won't make blanket changes to many other settings which does help.


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Already wrote a bit on BLCK and I just finished reading that link.

When all is said and done, I'm 100% sure I will have blck testing in the guide, tried and tested.

BLCK won't make blanket changes to many other settings which does help.

Can't wait to see it, will be experimenting myself until then.

The only reason I mentioned the PCIe slots is that as has been pointed out BCLK apparently does have some effect on PCIe, whether this is just the slots or the internal devices that reside on the bus remains to be seen but OC3D were able to achieve a 200MHz bus on the Asus z170A and 225MHz on the z170 Deluxe, and they weren't even pushing it. All of their tests were done with the iGPU.

On the other hand my Deluxe failed to boot at 200MHz which i'm putting down to having a discrete GPU. Looks like I'm going to have to go and increase it incrementally the old fashioned way.
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Can't wait to see it, will be experimenting myself until then.

Thanks, and absolutely go right on ahead, with no chip I'm relying on the good users of OCN to fill me in on what they've found thus far...

 

Quote:
 
The only reason I mentioned the PCIe slots is that as has been pointed out BCLK apparently does have some effect on PCIe, 

I read about that first in Asus' guide.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz2VRRbLPrZnMXBnOXRWeVlHcHM/view?pli=1

 

I think in terms of specifics this guide is the best so far.

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Quick question, just installed my 6700K rig and i'm running into a bit of a problem. I've pushed the multiplier to 44 without touching the voltage and i get many readings from different programs: Screenshot (Click to show)
7uPub7d.jpg
As you can see, some like intel XTU and HWinfo show that the core is at about 1.42V, a little high from what should be fine, but the ASRock tool that should read from the bios and CPU-Z show that the core is at about 1.28V, which sounds fine.

Which reading should I trust?
Edited by Guzmanus - 8/22/15 at 3:30am
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Which reading should I trust?
The one in UEFI and from the latest version of CPUz. From seeing other users reports, ~1.288v is stock voltage.
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Quick question, just installed my 6700K rig and i'm running into a bit of a problem. I've pushed the multiplier to 44 without touching the voltage and i get many readings from different programs: Screenshot (Click to show)
7uPub7d.jpg
As you can see, some like intel XTU and HWinfo show that the core is at about 1.42V, a little high from what should be fine, but the ASRock tool that should read from the bios and CPU-Z show that the core is at about 1.28V, which sounds fine.

Which reading should I trust?

Do you have spread spectrum turned on?
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