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Thanks for the replies guys.

I've done all you've said and its seemed to have helped a bit. However it still dips to 800mhz under load every few seconds.

I read a review of my board and I think it's poor cooling (gigabyte z170 wifi). Apparently it can't handle a higher power draw without dropping the core clock:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1497-page5.html
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Further stress testing immediately revealed a serious issue with the WIFI model. Running Prime95 (all threads) caused the the processor to throttle very quickly with the system power consumption reading jumping between ~145W and ~90W repeatedly as the CPU clock speed waxed and waned. This occurred even though the CPU temperature, as measured by various utilities, seemed to be at a safe range, around the 60°C mark, and the core voltage was reported as normal, about 1.275V. This is not an isolated case as other review sites have reported similar behavior. After discussing this problem at length with our contact at Gigabyte we were unable to find the cause or a fix.

It was suggested that a lack of cooling was at the heart of the matter but putting on a heavy duty heatsink and pointing a pair of high speed case fans at the VRM area did nothing to alleviate this issue, though perhaps it needs the aid of a proper VRM heatsink to properly draw heat away. The better cooled Z170N-Gaming 5 was completely stable under the same conditions. There have been reports of Prime95 causing Skylake processors to freeze but this did not seem to be related as the system never froze up and I also managed to cause the CPU to throttle by running combinations of non-synthetic applications. Encoding video with HandBrake while running the Lost Planet 2 demo benchmark in a window caused the frequency to dip repeatedly as well, though it took a few minutes before the problem began to manifest. This is a greater workload than most users would ever use but the fact that real world programs could bring the system to its knees is troubling.

After extensive testing, I found that power consumption could reliably predict whether the processor would throttle. Downgrading to one stick of memory lowered the stress on the integrated memory controller, causing the power draw to drop dramatically during Prime95, but it did eventually throttle as well, just taking longer to do so. However, the HandBrake and Lost Planet 2 test was stable with the system pulling 107W from the wall, about 9W less than the two DIMM configuration. It would seem that an i7-6700K with two sticks of memory is simply too much for the Z170N-WIFI's power regulation system and cooling (or lack thereof) to handle -- a serious limitation in a Z170 chipset board. The chief benefit of Z170 over lower-end chipsets is the ability to overclock but doing so on this model would draw too much power and potentially cause instability if it's pushed too hard.

So it looks like I may need to buy some heatsinks for the mosfets.
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Anyone else with a 6700K Vietnam batch?
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Honestly, with what the review said, it sounds more like you should ditch that board for a better one. It seems like its power regulation just isn't strong enough to overclock a skylake on top of it being insufficiently cooled.
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Anyone else with a 6700K Vietnam batch?

Yes, i have one, see sig below for batch # and pics.

Why do you ask?
Edited by nowcontrol - 2/23/16 at 10:16pm
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Yes, i have one, see sig below for batch # and pics.

Why do you ask?

I was curious to how they overclock compared to the Malay ones, I remember at one point Malay ones typically overclocked better. Has this changed for Skylake?
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Well i'm stable @ 4.9GHz with 1.44v [adaptive 1.3v +225 offset] but temps can get a little high with stressing, and i can boot @ 5GHz with 1.47v [adaptive 1.325v +250 offset] and use the PC for simple things but my temps hit the top with anything too stressful and it will freeze/bsod with stuff like xtu, CB, x264, and prime.

@4.9GHz ..


@ 5GHz .. i can get through GFX benches ..


http://valid.x86.fr/nezw62 thumb.gif
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Thanks for the replies guys.

I've done all you've said and its seemed to have helped a bit. However it still dips to 800mhz under load every few seconds.

I read a review of my board and I think it's poor cooling (gigabyte z170 wifi). Apparently it can't handle a higher power draw without dropping the core clock:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1497-page5.html
So it looks like I may need to buy some heatsinks for the mosfets.

I have this same thing on my MSI board but it only drops down to 8 when idle and does stay at 46 when under load OK and temps are good.

Im pretty sure I saw a setting in my MSI board to turn that off. Ill try and have a look when I next get a chance and see if it might help you.
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rolleyes.gif

Within the MSI UEFI 5 you should switch dynamic mode to fixed which disables EIST automatically on my z170a m3. Especially this brought more stability to my system. When turned on I have experienced that one of my prime workers stopped sometimes.

The C-State setting is available under the cpu functions on the OC card. By switching C-state off the UEfi will automatically disable CE-1, too.

Cheers,
Nic
Edited by RTZR - 2/24/16 at 2:02am
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What's the best stress test program(s) and how long should I run it/them for? I used Prime95 blend for ten hours to stress test my FX-6300 4.5 GHz overclock two and a half years ago but I'm reading that peopel are recommending against using Prime95 for Skylake overclocking.
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What's the best stress test program(s) and how long should I run it/them for? I used Prime95 blend for ten hours to stress test my FX-6300 4.5 GHz overclock two and a half years ago but I'm reading that peopel are recommending against using Prime95 for Skylake overclocking.
Did you read the OP? Many use x264/RealBench/HWBOT x265 etc but some still like P95. I use HCI memtest 8 threads to 100% or more for memory testing.
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