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thank you im really new in this oc and not so good in english i try to find some info in here. maybe i first will buy new cooler. can you say is water cooling good for oc?
The concept of water cooling is good for overclocking, but the reality is a bit more complicated. I'll start with some basics. There are really 3 different types of cooling solutions you can consider: air coolers, sealed liquid coolers (also known as closed-loop coolers or CLCs), and expandable or custom water cooling systems. Each has their benefits.
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- Lowest cost, basic ones can be purchased for $30, nicer ones range from $60 to $90
- Most reliable, fans are their only point of failure. If all fans fail, it still passively cools.
- The largest air coolers are quieter than sealed liquid coolers
- Need a lot of space, your case must be wide enough to fit the cooler you select, & for the largest coolers, RAM with tall heat spreaders can prevent installation.
Sealed Liquid Coolers
- Mid-range cost, popular options are typically around $100
- Less reliable, disposable. In addition to fans, you have a cheaply made pump, & coolant that cannot be serviced. Most people don't have issues for a long time, but they do still have a more limited lifespan
- Typically louder than air coolers, but have more capacity to cool in exchange for the additional noise. This is a function of current products using overly dense radiators and pumps with limited flow rates. Later designs may improve this.
- Need a case designed to fit them in the first place. If you buy a 120x240 or 140x280 (typically referred to as 240 & 280 mm radiators), you must have a place to mount them in your case, & need clearance for the radiator and fans either above or in front of your motherboard.
Open Loop or Custom Coolers
- Most expensive, price of cheapest kit is $140, can be as high as you want to spend.
- Reliability varies by component selection and your assembly. Good parts correctly assembled will be very reliable. Low quality parts or incorrect assembly can cause issues quickly.
- Noise levels vary by fan/radiator combination & pump selection. A good high-end system can be as quiet as air with better cooling. A poorly specced system can be as noisy as a sealed cooler.
- Will need routine maintenance, but will last longer than sealed liquid coolers as a tradeoff. Sealed coolers could benefit from maintenance as well, but the user doesn't have the ability to do it.
- Has the same case requirements as sealed kits at a minimum. More complex systems will need more options in a case.
- Can be expanded to also cool other components such as the GPUs, which often benefit greatly from the change.

I assume since English is not your first language, there's a good chance you don't live in the US. As such, the prices I'm listing may not apply for you, but the relative pricing should be similar, & pricing is too large a consideration to ignore altogether.

In your position, I would recommend an air cooler. If your case is large enough, the Noctua NH-D15, Phanteks PH-TC14PE, & Thermalright Silver Arrow are some of the best air coolers you can get. In the US, the Phanteks PH-TC14PE is available for $60 or $65 depending on color, which makes it the most sensible of the 3 to purchase. In other countries, the pricing on one of the others (or similar products by other brands) may make them a better option. If your case isn't large enough for one of these, a smaller 120mm air cooler would be reasonable, while being even cheaper, though of course they won't cool quite as well, but will still be much better than the stock cooler. The CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Evo is a popular cooler for $30. There may be better options now, but I'm not familiar enough with them to know. If you really want to push things you could buy a liquid cooler, but if you're spending much more than the price difference between the i5 & i7, I feel like you're better off selling the i5, moving to the i7, & using a cheaper air cooler. Others may disagree, but that's my opinion. If you do decide to go for a liquid cooler, I would recommend looking at the Swiftech H240 X2. It's a good kit that can be expanded if needed. If you don't want to maintain it, don't open it. You'll be no worse off than with a sealed kit. With exception for unusual situations, I don't recommend the sealed liquid coolers. The smaller 120 & 140mm kits are often as expensive as larger air coolers which will be quieter and cooler. The larger kits have better cooling capacity, but I feel they are unreasonably loud under load, & their price is too close to the Swiftech kit to not just purchase it at that point.
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Guys i have a question.

I have 6600K @ 4,7ghz - 1,35V

when i do prime95 v28.9 my Worker #2 says

FATAL ERROR Rounding was 0,4766551047 expected less than 0,4.

But i have no problems in games etc. Is my system stable enough for gaming? i have never crashed with this settings? is there possibilities where my CPU performs worse because of instability?
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Air Coolers
- Lowest cost, basic ones can be purchased for $30, nicer ones range from $60 to $90
- Most reliable, fans are their only point of failure. If all fans fail, it still passively cools.
- The largest air coolers are quieter than sealed liquid coolers
- Need a lot of space, your case must be wide enough to fit the cooler you select, & for the largest coolers, RAM with tall heat spreaders can prevent installation.

...

...and a (very) good air flow feeding them smile.gif
    
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hey can i get in on some of this club action! Ive got a 6600K and she seems to be running stable at 4.9Ghz
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here is my CPU-Z link


http://valid.x86.fr/nc2kgl
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hey can i get in on some of this club action! Ive got a 6600K and she seems to be running stable at 4.9Ghz
Check the starting post and read the "Charting Form to Submit Your Overclock to the Chart" section.
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Guys i have a question.

I have 6600K @ 4,7ghz - 1,35V

when i do prime95 v28.9 my Worker #2 says

FATAL ERROR Rounding was 0,4766551047 expected less than 0,4.

But i have no problems in games etc. Is my system stable enough for gaming? i have never crashed with this settings? is there possibilities where my CPU performs worse because of instability?

May be RAM related. I had similar errors and it required some fine tuning of my RAM (dram voltage and timing tweaks) before I resolved these errors on my system.

You will need to test and ensure that your RAM is stable as well, not just your cpu.

'Google stressapptest' is a great stability testing tool for RAM.
Edited by Costas - 7/31/16 at 4:05pm
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Guys i have a question.

I have 6600K @ 4,7ghz - 1,35V

when i do prime95 v28.9 my Worker #2 says

FATAL ERROR Rounding was 0,4766551047 expected less than 0,4.

But i have no problems in games etc. Is my system stable enough for gaming? i have never crashed with this settings? is there possibilities where my CPU performs worse because of instability?
If all you're doing is gaming it's probably fine, but if you ever run folding@home or something like that you might run into issues. I ran my 6600K at 4.7GHz 1.37V for a while without issue, but bumped it back down to 4.6GHz 1.31V to avoid the P95 rounding errors. I've considered returning to 4.7GHz, but the performance difference is so low that I'm not sure it's worth the extra heat & voltage to get it totally stable. Someone else mentioned RAM stability. I thought mine was stable, but I may try adjusting it as well just in case.
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Hi!
RAM
Maybe it`s a not 100% relevant topic, but anyway.

About DDR4.
I bought 2*8 Gb Crucial 2133 and have used it since October, but a few days ago I bought 2*8 Gb 2666 Patriot (I am QA and I need 32 Gb for Load testing and for virtual machine) but it doesn`t work together, I can use Crucial or new Patriot, I thought my bios will change frequency from 2666 to 2133 and it will be fine, but I was wrong. mad.gif

So, guys I need advice: I can return new Patriot and get something another during 14 days in my country. I see two ways:

1. Change Patriot 2666 to some 2*8 Gb 2133 (any brand) and install it together with my RAM, I will be have 32 GB, but I`m not sure about overclocking, because current Crucial correct works only with 2400 Mhz.

2. Sell current Crucial and changing Patriot to some 4*8 Gb Kit 3000 Mhz ? Or just buy the same +1 kit of Patriot memory with 2666 Mhz.
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