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I just did a delid for a friend last weekend. His 6700K was running around 90C stock speeds when playing games (ARMA3 mods and BF4) with an H100i cooler. So I took a loot at it, and the IHS was severely concave. So I took it to work, did a de-lid, then through the removed IHS on our surface grinder. Didnt make it perfect since I ran out of time, but it is about twice as good as it used to be anyway. Used some CLU between die and IHS. Now I added 0.05v to the cores and overclocked it to 4.5GHz and it still only gets to 64 degrees under Prime95 FMA3. Great success thumb.gif

Here are a couple pics. One of the surface grinder doing its thing, and another of the first pass on the pair of IHS's. The first pass took off about .0006" from the top. You can see the part taken off by the lighter gray. The whole center of my friends IHS on the left wasnt even touched by the surface grinder yet. I only had time for 3 passes, so in total I took off .001" and the center still hadnt even been touched frown.gif The copper was just starting to show through on the outer edged of the bottom and right. So ya, not perfect but a lot better than it was. Doubt I will bother taking the time to make it perfect as the CPU is already installed and with a 25 degree drop from stock gaming to overclocked in Prime it is plenty good enough. Altogether time spent with the delid and surface grinder was 40 minutes.




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I have my "The Duality" build log on numerous forums. I show that I run my 6600K at 1.488v load and everyone is freaking out. Is 1.488v that dangerous? My delidded 6600K runs under 70°C under water.

I'll try to optimize, but for now, it's stable under 1hr of OCCT.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/9120_20#post_25541661

No it is not dangerous at all. Intel's in depth study on both P and N transistors of their 14nm process node show that there is practically no difference in transistor life on the degradation curve anywhere under 1.6v. People are just dumb and like to talk about things they heard from a guy who heard it from a guy. Trust Intel's own in depth study on their technology that they presented to the world.


And if anyone cares, I have been running at almost 1.5v manual on my 6700K for over a year now, verified with a DMM reading at the back of the CPU socket for accuracy, and have not had a single issue. Only reason I dont go higher is because Intel says 1.52v max. But the 14nm node is far better built voltage wise than the 22nm node.
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No it is not dangerous at all. Intel's in depth study on both P and N transistors of their 14nm process node show that there is practically no difference in transistor life on the degradation curve anywhere under 1.6v. People are just dumb and like to talk about things they heard from a guy who heard it from a guy. Trust Intel's own in depth study on their technology that they presented to the world.


And if anyone cares, I have been running at almost 1.5v manual on my 6700K for over a year now, verified with a DMM reading at the back of the CPU socket for accuracy, and have not had a single issue. Only reason I dont go higher is because Intel says 1.52v max. But the 14nm node is far better built voltage wise than the 22nm node.

Do you have a link to this study by chance?
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Edited by DeathAngel74 - 10/2/16 at 10:28pm
     
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Do you have a link to this study by chance?

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7112692/authors

Ill share a couple chart excerpts from the document since most people dont have a subscription or want to buy the document:





So I did remember the graph a little bit wrong and there is some curvature below 1.6v, but it is still a big improvement over 22nm and the curve is much less steep to 1.6v and still pretty within all safe levels. Meh.

EDIT: I guess I should have also put the oscillator degradation % chart in there, oh well. It basically summarizes what we see in the BTI chart anyway. 22nm degradation from AC stress was 2%, 14nm AC stress is a bit under 1%. 22nm DC stress was a bit under 1.5% degradation, 14nm DC stress is a bit above 0.5%.
They also say Hot Carrier degradation shows no significant increase until the 2.0v mark.
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I have my "The Duality" build log on numerous forums. I show that I run my 6600K at 1.488v load and everyone is freaking out. Is 1.488v that dangerous? My delidded 6600K runs under 70°C under water.

I'll try to optimize, but for now, it's stable under 1hr of OCCT.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1570313/skylake-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/9120_20#post_25541661

I have a 6600K that has been at 1.488V (load) since I put it in a M8 Impact mitx build... and at higher voltage before that - it's an ES chip that had a very rough childhood. Still going very strong.

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Bios

All right guys, here are the details.

- Total stock state, XMP disabled:

http://i.imgur.com/EyPnLLP.jpg

- XMP Enabled with All Core Enhancement option On:

http://i.imgur.com/h6nOXkC.jpg

- XMP Enabled with Intel Stock option:

http://i.imgur.com/z0laQwA.jpg

If I see right then both All Core Enhancement option and Intel Stock option have identical settings, so how come temps are lower by almost 10ºC on Intel stock option in comparison with All Core Enhancement one? In any case, what should I do to have the lowest possible temps with RAMs running at 3000?
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Is it ok to leave the FCLOCK at 1060? or should I change it to 848?
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Is it ok to leave the FCLOCK at 1060? or should I change it to 848?

That is fine. It can easily run stable up to 1200 and many can run it further. Mine tops at about 1400.
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