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post #9241 of 11361
I have used offset voltage for years successfully with no crashes. LLC gives far too much voltage in any offset voltage scenario and it uses different voltage for AVX and non AVX so things crash unless I overvolt. In which case, why even bother testing with any stability program if a basic program doesn't get enough voltage from the motherboard and crashes. Also, I didn't buy a premium board to run manual voltage.
Edited by Bobber1 - 10/5/16 at 12:01am
post #9242 of 11361
I only ask to test, not run 24/7, with fixed manual voltage to find the right vcore to target.
Also, I seem to experience that Offset mode didn't seem to "cap" the vcore as Adaptive mode does with AVX2.

Anyway, good luck! smile.gif
post #9243 of 11361
I'm pretty sure I posted that I tested both manual and offset at 1.344v and it worked like a charm. Does AsRock lack the ridiculous additional AVX voltage "feature" that ASUS has? If so, I'm going to have to find an AsRock board that lacks coil whine, use offset at 1.4v+, or run manual on a premium board when I could do that on any board half the price.
post #9244 of 11361
I thought you wrote it crashes for non AVX programs due to vdroop/vdrop at LLC1. Anyway I'm too confused to suggest anything more.
post #9245 of 11361
No, I was remarking about how LLC1 with no additional offset voltage was applying 1.35 volts at load to the cpu. On my old motherboard that had coil whine (AsRock Extreme6) it was stable at 1.344 voltage and offset was stable loading to that under prime and no other application crashed ever. I'm stable under prime95 when I use offset under Asus which loads it at 1.344v, but it's when I load anything else that it crashes. Either I have to account for a disparity and raise which raises AVX beyond 1.4v or just stick with a manual (and burn out my OC faster than offset).
post #9246 of 11361
Still suggest you try LLC4 or 5, and then Adaptive mode as I wrote earlier
post #9247 of 11361
I've already tested at 1.344v in Prime95 and Memtest and found both to be completely stable on manual voltage. How would I go about setting adaptive with that voltage range considering I have never used it? Would this allow the voltage to drop at idle?
post #9248 of 11361
Yes, vcore will drop at idle with Adaptive. I think you can try starting off with 1.324 +0.020v

Offset sign +
Additional Turbo 1.324
Offset voltage 0.020

and LLC5

Then see what vcore you get in Windows (probably be higher) - reduce the first number down accordingly to get nearer to your 1.344 target. But I suggest putting it just slightly higher than 1.344
post #9249 of 11361
Wow, so that works way better than offset does. It keeps a high stable voltage for pretty much everything I need it and nothing crashes. I could probably raise it a bit, but additional turbo at 1.3v and offset voltage of 0.020 it keeps it pegged at 1.344 at load. That is much more simple than figuring out what LLC gives the highest base voltage without having to do any negative offset to keep your idle clock from becoming unstable. This is exactly what I wanted offset to be for years. Thanks so much.
post #9250 of 11361
That's a good start, and you're welcome smile.gif
If you can afford the temps, I suggest putting your target vcore at about a bin higher, say 1.360
to add some additional stability in case of random vdroops from 1.344 & bsod, after a few hours of stability testing...

If you run some benchmark tests, I'm thinking you'd also get abit better performance at 1.360 vs 1.344
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