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Are 26 passes of IBT @ very high enough to test stability? I've already completed 10 passes successfully. Sorry to be a PITA. redface.gif

According to the IBT readme:
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3. Select the run # (should use at least 5 at minimum, no more than 20).

Also, you should test at maximum but I never had a pc crash after passing at very high.
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Thank you. I will restart the pc, let it cool for a few minutes and run 20 passes. Then report back. Plus it's almost 1am, and I'm tired, lol. Maximum would take forever and I have to be up for work at 6 am. rolleyes.gif

20 passes completed without errors:




http://valid.x86.fr/ez4v5d

Bed time now....

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I believe the recommended duration was three hours.

For me, that was 20 passes at Max with 16GB of RAM.
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Welp, gonna throw mine into the mix. Feels bad for not having any dot on that graph near my area.

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Base Clock: 101.5
Core Multiplier: 42
Core Frequency: 4263
Cache Frequency: 4263
Vcore in UEFI: 1.275
Vcore: Dunno what's my average, for my PC is always 24/7 under P95 load. Aka constan 1.296v after the LLC overshoot
FCLK: 1ghz
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Stability Test: Days worth of continuous Prime95 at different FTT levels (and by that, I mean a couple days for each FTT). A few FTT examples: 128, 672, 768, 800, 896, 1600, 1728, 1920, 2560, 2880.

Batch Number: I don't have the box anymore, but I've bought it in Brazil.
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Well....Here goes.
I tried 5.0 @ 1.5v, it booted but was not stable, so I tried 4.9 @ 1.5v. Not stable either. I got to 4.801 @ 1.485v 84C, also not stable for more than 2 hours. 4.7 @ 1.46v 82C was not stable either. So meh...lol.
4.625 @ 1.395 is stable ironically.
So this is my dilemma:
4.4 @ 1.265v 58C
4.5 @ 1.280v 67C
4.6 @ 1.37v 71C
4.625 @ 1.395v 80C
I'm still under 1.4v technically, but different sites give conflicting advice. And this IS OCN for god's sake(insert random deity here). Most ppl are telling me to drop down to 4.5 @ 1.280v, but to me the increase between that and 4.625 is noticeable. I like moar powah! So yeah....I'm cornfusled. tongue.gif

The likely cause of instability at "4.801 @ 1.485v 84C" is your temperatures. Intel processors *can* go to about 100c before they are damaged, but they lose stability starting in the high 70's when overclocking around 4.5GHz and higher. Laptops and such are "fine" for stability running 100c temps because they only reach low to mid 2GHz area, but as soon as that frequency goes way up you need to keep them a lot cooler running.

As for your voltage, its fine. Just keep your temps in check.
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It's not that I was using LLC incorrectly, it's that high LLC on this board literally gave me 1.45vcore with no added voltage when offset was set to +0.005v (basically nothing). I normally use 75% on boards or 5/6 on Asus to get the most stable voltage possible. My AsRock was on level 3 out of 5 for this reason (gave me 100% consistent results with vdroop). The only way to lower the voltage without a massive negative offset was to put it at LLC 2/3 which gave weird voltage swings. Adaptive doesn't have this issue for whatever reason.

I really do think all motherboards should have many levels of LLC and very good offset/adaptive voltage settings. When I played around with the Gaming 7 on my brother's computer, I found the offset option hidden behind a voltage number and having to press page down to find it and then found out that it only had two wildly swinging LLC settings. That to me isn't acceptable, every motherboard should have good voltage control beyond manual, so a premium board should always be perfect. Also, I have had overclocks require more voltage over time as a result of constant voltage, so the degradation in my experience was very real. Anyways, adaptive replaces offset for me, at least on this motherboard, so I won't go into bother talking about that anymore.

Thanks again for the help.

Each board is pretty different. I have the Gigabyte Z170X-SOC Force and LLC performance is one of the best on the market. You can see the numbers here:

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index13.html

I use Turbo LLC myself @ 1.36 and voltage is very stable. So at least I can say that those voltage swings you mention its not a Gigabyte thing, but model related.
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Please update my stats. This is my final submission. For reference, my original submission was post #7325, pg. 733. I've clean up all the failed attempts in the thread. TIA

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CPU model: i7 6700k LGA1151
BCLK: 100.02 MHz
Core Multiplier: 46
Cache Multiplier: 44
Core Frequency: 4601.1 MHz
Cache Frequency: 4401.1 MHz
VCORE UEFI BIOS: 1.35v adaptive + 0.020v
VCORE WINDOWS/CPU-Z: 1.376v
VCORE 100% Load: 1.378v
FCLK: 1 GHz
Cooling: H100i v2 - Push/Pull (4 fans/ Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut)
Stability tests: Prime95 26.6 - small FFT's, 4096*4096 - 1 hour/28.7 - small FFT's 1 hour each, Realbench stress test - 1 hour, Realbench benchmark - 6 loops, 20+10 passes IBT - very high, 1.5 hours LinX maximum
Batch number: X548C056 (Vietnam)
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VDRAM: 1.35V
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO Z170 - BIOS 2202
LLC: Level 5
Delid: Nope
VCCIO: 1.224v
VCCSA: 1.216v
VPCH: 1.000v
VSTB: 1.237v
CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86.fr/ez4v5d
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Each board is pretty different. I have the Gigabyte Z170X-SOC Force and LLC performance is one of the best on the market. You can see the numbers here:

http://www.tweaktown.com/guides/7481/tweaktowns-ultimate-intel-skylake-overclocking-guide/index13.html

I use Turbo LLC myself @ 1.36 and voltage is very stable. So at least I can say that those voltage swings you mention its not a Gigabyte thing, but model related.

LLC is compensating for voltage "swings" you cannot see with any OS software, or a digital multi-meter. (load line overshoot - clearly described in Intel's Product data sheet for this generation). You should read up on what LLC does.thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by DeathAngel74 View Post

@Darkwizzie

Please update my stats. This is my final submission. For reference, my original submission was post #7325, pg. 733. I've clean up all the failed attempts in the thread. TIA

Username: DeathAngel74
CPU model: i7 6700k LGA1151
BCLK: 100.02 MHz
Core Multiplier: 46
Cache Multiplier: 44
Core Frequency: 4601.1 MHz
Cache Frequency: 4401.1 MHz
VCORE UEFI BIOS: 1.35v adaptive + 0.020v
VCORE WINDOWS/CPU-Z: 1.376v
VCORE 100% Load: 1.378v
FCLK: 1 GHz
Cooling: H100i v2 - Push/Pull (4 fans/ Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut)
Stability tests: Prime95 26.6 - small FFT's, 4096*4096 - 1 hour/28.7 - small FFT's 1 hour each, Realbench stress test - 1 hour, Realbench benchmark - 6 loops, 20+10 passes IBT - very high, 1.5 hours LinX maximum
Batch number: X548C056 (Vietnam)
RAM Speed: 3200 MHz 16-18-18-36-2T XMP 2.0
VDRAM: 1.35V
Motherboard: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO Z170 - BIOS 2202
LLC: Level 5
Delid: Nope
VCCIO: 1.224v
VCCSA: 1.216v
VPCH: 1.000v
VSTB: 1.237v
CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86.fr/ez4v5d
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I don't think they are very active with updating it anymore at this time tongue.gif
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