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Actually the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere are nowhere near historical levels, please don't spout misinformation.

Exactly. In the Precambian period, CO2 levels were 100 TIMES what they are now ... and not a human to be found.





Not to mention the Earth has been WAY hotter and way colder than it is now. Again, without a human to be found.
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Don't forget that Mars also has global warming.
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Originally Posted by soth7676 View Post

Wow andrews....sounds like you should be reporter....the sort that likes the "GOTCHA!" type of reports....

All I am saying is if someones reliability on what they say is dependent on the source of their funding...Sorry the government has their own agenda as well as any other outside entity...

[Citation needed]

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So if Unicorn wishes to dismiss the reliability on that alone...ALOT of other scientists conclusions can be suspect as well....but too many will turn a blind eye to that and just spout what they believe....

"Alone," lol. thumb.gif

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HOWEVER....if the government gave EQUAL funding to scientists to DISPROVE man made global warming....My guess is a REAL debate will occur rather than "the science is settled on this...no need for debate here" crap we are getting now...

Hmm, how to respond?

Reductio ad absurdum seems like a fun fallacy to use, so I pick that:

Correct. Similarly, I believe that the government should also give equal funding both to groups who propose modern medicine can treat/cure disease, and also to people who say that disease can be cured by chugging copious amounts of mercury. I believe this will put an end to the mercury vs medicine debate once and for all.

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I am old enough to remember "the world is become a giant ice ball" panic these same people spouting in the 70s...then abruptly in the mid to late 80s suddenly the world is going to turn into one of the layers in "Dante's Inferno"... Then it turned to "climate change" in the late

Yes, because that's what the evidence suggested at the time. And then we started to learn more. And more. And more. And now we've come to a different conclusion. That's how science works. It isn't some authoritative entity that dictates "THIS IS TRUE," but rather an approach to problem solving and answering questions. 30-40 years ago, the answer seemed to be "future = cold," but now we're seeing more data suggesting the opposite.

(inb4 "But that means all science is wrong!")

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Exactly. In the Precambian period, CO2 levels were 100 TIMES what they are now ... and not a human to be found.

Not to mention the Earth has been WAY hotter and way colder than it is now. Again, without a human to be found.

And?
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Exactly. In the Precambian period, CO2 levels were 100 TIMES what they are now ... and not a human to be found.





Not to mention the Earth has been WAY hotter and way colder than it is now. Again, without a human to be found.

And a human probably wouldn't fair too well in those conditions. So your point is we have nothing to worry about because the planet had conditions we likely wouldn't survive in?
     
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In London I haven't seen one piece of snow in years, damn I miss the sight and feel of snow as it crunches beneath me, I miss throwing snowballs too!
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And a human probably wouldn't fair too well in those conditions. So your point is we have nothing to worry about because the planet had conditions we likely wouldn't survive in?

Like every other species on this planet ... we will adapt or die.

Odds are we will survive, because if you look at the chart, it's not like CO2 or temps shot up overnight.
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Like every other species on this planet ... we will adapt or die.

Odds are we will survive, because if you look at the chart, it's not like CO2 or temps shot up overnight.

Which chart? If you're talking about the one of the entire planet history then that's an error of scale interpretation. If you're talking about another one let me know so I can be on the same page.

There are biological limits to our physiology unless people get open to artificial genetic modification of themselves(hell they can't even understand what genetic modification is while they do it everyday to their pets).

There are many ways in which a single factor's change can cascade into others and do more damage than that factor alone so CO2 may not be as big as Al the brain sore Gore totes but they can feed into other things.
     
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Which chart? If you're talking about the one of the entire planet history then that's an error of scale interpretation. If you're talking about another one let me know so I can be on the same page.

There are biological limits to our physiology unless people get open to artificial genetic modification of themselves(hell they can't even understand what genetic modification is while they do it everyday to their pets).

There are many ways in which a single factor's change can cascade into others and do more damage than that factor alone so CO2 may not be as big as Al the brain sore Gore totes but they can feed into other things.

Honestly, it doesn't matter which chart. Even the most alarmest chart won't raise the CO2 or temps to the levels that will cause human extinction. Will people die? Sure. But then again, I think the planet is about 4 billion people too over populated as is. So if 10,000 years down the road, or even 100,000 years down the road, CO2 levels double or triple and temps climb by 3C, humans as a species will be just fine. There may be less of us, but odds are, there will still be more humans then than when there were humans during the last ice age (which we didn't cause and we made it through just fine).

Odds are, if we don't kill ourselves off with nuclear or biological war, we will be long gone from this planet in less than 1,000 year (if not sooner), and our species will survive.

Man will evolve from Homosapien to Homostellaris, and all this will be a moot point.
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Let's not let facts get in the argument now. biggrin.gif

I am not a denialist. But for every argument before, there are common sense arguments against on a 1:1 ratio. When common sense fails, that's when it's time to worry. I won't be around in 60 years. So I try not to spread thought germs. Brainwashing aside. wink.gif lulz

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