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And thanks for all your input. It's been a ton of help


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do you want to be able to overclock or avoid it. if you never want to overclock things get cheaper for intel. If you do you they get worse quite quickly. the best deal is often an overclocked amd, but by the same token if you dont overclock an amd (even though it's dead easy} value per dollar drops
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
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Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
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Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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post #13 of 28
re: your build.
I don't know whether or not a 250 will sli with a 7600. AMD likes to claim such but im not sure if they've actually got it working yet. IIRC only some GPU/APU/motherboard combinations would do it. Research is key.

If it doesn't either the apu and the fast memory are a waste, or the discrete gpu is. If it does work that may be a pretty clever build though.
Edited by bombastinator - 8/28/15 at 10:03am
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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post #14 of 28
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My monitor is 1080p and I have a keyboard and mouse already! https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MrSpencerific/saved/DVv7YJ here's a link to the build I've worked on so far. I've been trying to use suggestions from in here and a friend but I'm not sure how reliable the friend is after hearing advice from online... How does this build look or should I look to something different? And I will need a video card correct? I've had some people not list that or say that I don't and it was my understanding that I would definitely need a good video card.


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You do not need a video card, that's the whole purpose of using an APU.
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post #15 of 28
Going with painkiller's build, you could use the memory from your old PC,as well as the SSD for more storage with the Sandisk. Those two parts you could salvage.

EDIT : Totally misunderstood. But yeah, I would still go with painkiller's build. It's a solid gaming system.
    
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WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Samsung 850 EVO 120GB LG RW Noctua NH-D14 
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 37" FHD TV (Native 1080p) LG 22MP47 1080p - IPS Generic Genius Keyboard 
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WD Caviar Blue 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Samsung 850 EVO 120GB LG RW Noctua NH-D14 
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 37" FHD TV (Native 1080p) LG 22MP47 1080p - IPS Generic Genius Keyboard 
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post #16 of 28
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You do not need a video card, that's the whole purpose of using an APU.

true. however IF he picks the right cpu/gpu/MoBo AND AMD has finally gotten their stuff in a box he MAY get crossfire with the APU. This trick would only work with SOME AMD cards in the r7 series if at all.

in other news I am an idiot. the r9 280 I dissed IS a 7950. the 7950 has enough guts to more or less crush 1080p basically any 4 core or 2 core multi thread system and a r9 280 will be more than enough for gaming.
Edited by bombastinator - 8/28/15 at 11:28am
New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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New gaming rig
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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post #17 of 28
this is what i would consider if overclocking (it will need it BUT it can do it!)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock Slim 67.8 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.90 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($35.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.78 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($33.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $496.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-28 16:56 EDT-0400

Had to go haswell to get the cpu. The performance difference between it and the newest hottest is near nil though. its the only overclockable 2 core with threading the company has made in a very long time. it's standard wattage is 53w or something, but you can overclock these puppies to 5ghz(!) effectively nearly doubling their speed (and wattage). many games are single core, so high ghz low core count is a win. For that heat you may need the 4 pipe cooler if you don't want it loud. If you don't care use the stock cooler and buy a 240gb SSD instead of the barracuda. you can save another 15 bucks with a freezer 7 pro rev2 instead of the 4 pipe. it was designed for a hotter chip so it should still be fine. They're actually quiet if you keep the fan speed under 1100 rpm, which shouldn't be hard to do. its a question of how much you want to overclock and how much noise you can put up with.

I'd try it with the stock cooler first. you may get lucky and have a golden chip[ that does 5ghz on the stock cooler and isn't loud. it's happened. the ghz record for one of these things is 6.3ghz, but may have been done with exotic cooling.
Edited by bombastinator - 8/28/15 at 2:13pm
New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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post #18 of 28
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($111.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($39.49 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk Solid State Drive 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($178.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($35.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $509.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-23 18:31 EDT-0400
this is a better choice over the A8
  
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post #19 of 28
Still think g3258 will pwn the i3
New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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New gaming rig
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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post #20 of 28
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Still think g3258 will pwn the i3
it in multithreaded games you would need the extra threads, a dual core isnt the best idea for future games
  
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