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I've got the Z170-HD3, and now I'm interested in Thunderbolt support. This motherboard has THB_C connector. I've found only one gigabytes Thunderbolt add-in card - GC-Thunderbol 2, but it has only X99 chipset motherboards in compatibility list. I cannot try this add-in card cause its not available through local resellers. Also it is said that thunderbolt support should be enabled in BIOS. I have no Thunderbolt support option in my F5 BIOS. So should it work? I've tried to ask gigabytes through tech support site. A week has passed and there is no answer. In case this add-in card is not supported, what cards can i use to get thunderbolt port? I want to use apple thunderbolt display with my PC.
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post #252 of 1703
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There is another big difference in the Gaming 7 vs GT, the GT has 12+2 phase VRM's while the 7 has 10+1. The would allow better power delivery for overclocking. There is a few other minor differences.
$220 vs $300, if overclocking is your thing it might be worth it.

My 7 has a bios selector switch and the trace path is red and changeable through the app center.


The big jump is in the Gaming G1 or GA-Z170X-Gaming G1. 12+ 2 phases, twin Killer lan ports and Killer wireless, 3 upgradeable op amps, g1/4 thread ports for watercooling the VRM's, 2 x 16xPCI-E slots and 2 x 8xPCI-e slots and a few more things like armor over the sata ports even, that bring the price to $500.

Annnnd now I want a Gaming GT. I wonder if the Gaming GT has the same pwm controller as the G1 without phase doubling or something. Doubtful for the price, but would be nice. I wish more reviewers would get into the circuitry on motherboards, especially with manufacturers calling analog PWMs hybrid digital, or just outright lying and calling them plain digital.

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On the 7 and gt the 7 also has a bios switch and audio switch so am wondering what's the difference maybe power phase?

Yep, as Devildog83 posted earlier, the GT has 12+2 power phase design while the 7 has 10+1. Th GT also has a second gain switch for the front audio and a second Op-AMP presumably also for the front audio. I'm not sure how useful the BIOS switch is on the 7, looking at the manual, it just switches between one or dual BIOS. The GT also has this, but adds an actual BIOS selector switch.

The GT is starting to get tempting..
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Annnnd now I want a Gaming GT. I wonder if the Gaming GT has the same pwm controller as the G1 without phase doubling or something. Doubtful for the price, but would be nice. I wish more reviewers would get into the circuitry on motherboards, especially with manufacturers calling analog PWMs hybrid digital, or just outright lying and calling them plain digital.
Yep, as Devildog83 posted earlier, the GT has 12+2 power phase design while the 7 has 10+1. Th GT also has a second gain switch for the front audio and a second Op-AMP presumably also for the front audio. I'm not sure how useful the BIOS switch is on the 7, looking at the manual, it just switches between one or dual BIOS. The GT also has this, but adds an actual BIOS selector switch.

The GT is starting to get tempting..

Thank you for the info, seems more directed towards audiophiles and a bit of a bump for overclockers, I really wish gaming 7 had the killer wifi, but who can complain the features on gigabytes boards really outweigh alot of the other manufacturers.
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Here is what I did to make it work. I set XMP profile1 and checked the voltage, it was still set at stock 1.2v. As you can see in the 1st pic the XMP is supposed to have 1.25v, 1.2 is the stock voltage for the base 2133 clock so I set the voltage to 1.275 manually and presto I am running perfect at rated 2800 speed. I would not be surprised if that is the entire problem, the voltage needs to match the XMP or even .025 higher just to be safe.

Thanks Devildog...will try it out and report back!
post #255 of 1703
Is gigabyte going to add this bios, instead of the classic mode?

Which, of your board has it?
post #256 of 1703
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Annnnd now I want a Gaming GT. I wonder if the Gaming GT has the same pwm controller as the G1 without phase doubling or something. Doubtful for the price, but would be nice. I wish more reviewers would get into the circuitry on motherboards, especially with manufacturers calling analog PWMs hybrid digital, or just outright lying and calling them plain digital.
Yep, as Devildog83 posted earlier, the GT has 12+2 power phase design while the 7 has 10+1. Th GT also has a second gain switch for the front audio and a second Op-AMP presumably also for the front audio. I'm not sure how useful the BIOS switch is on the 7, looking at the manual, it just switches between one or dual BIOS. The GT also has this, but adds an actual BIOS selector switch.

The GT is starting to get tempting..

Agreed. Still within my return window for my gaming 7, and really considering the upgrade. Will the extra power delivery really help? Do I need another opp amp? Is the gain switch going to help?
Who knows. But do I want to upgrade to the GT anyway? Yes, yes I do.
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Is gigabyte going to add this bios, instead of the classic mode?

Which, of your board has it?
No, F5a has been latest with 3D BIOS for Gaming 7.
Now all Z170 boards are with only classic mode.
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What does the "Enable DSP" setting do other than break the Creative sound solution from working in windows (although it doesn't break it in Linux) ?
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Thank you for the info, seems more directed towards audiophiles and a bit of a bump for overclockers, I really wish gaming 7 had the killer wifi, but who can complain the features on gigabytes boards really outweigh alot of the other manufacturers.

Yep I would like to see how the Kiiller Wifi LAN performed also but that's part of why the G1 is $500. The GT and Gaming 7 are stuck with 1 Killer LAN and and 1 Intel GbE LAN. I don't need Wifi though so it's not an issue with me as I made sure to hardwire Cat5 to my "ManCave". The biggest thing I would use if I got the G1 is the water-cooling ports for the Mosfet's and VRM's.
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I've purchased the Z170MX Gaming 5, and I'm now trying to figure out which memory I want. I'm torn between Ripjaws V or Mushkin Redline (both 2666mhz), as they both are 1.2v, leading me to believe they are hynix chips in there and will OC a bit.

Any input on hynix DDR4 options on Z170 mobos?

I have Ripjaws V 2800 (16Gigs for $120) and it works great now but I will tell you the 1.2v is for stock 2133 speeds, If you go higher you will have to bump the Voltage some. I run 1.275 for 2800 and it is really not stressing the RAM at all and they are staying around 20c. I am sure if I set it to 1.35 I could get 3000 out of them.
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