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post #601 of 1636
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Im not sure if you asked me or not but 1,187V vcore is too low as far as I know. What I've done to get my oc stable is.
Reset the bios to default.
Turned off the onboard gpu and sound (I have a soundcard)
Set my cpu ratio to 4.5 and set the voltage to 1.335
Set Load line calbration (LLC) to normal
Logged in to win started aida 64 and opened up the sensor bit

Started realbech benchmark and watched the realtime vcore drop. I went dont to 1.24 or something. The test wasnt successful. I changed LLC to High and started over
Not the drop was just fine and the benchmark finished. I did couple additional stresstest to make sure it is stable.

If the temps are too high decrease the vcore
If the system not stable increase th vcore.
Use LLC to encounter the vdrop
If you happy with the temp you can increase the mhz but you need to increase the vcore as well to stay on stable.

I'm on 1.332 with drop @ 45 in game max 70C and very quiet with the H110iGTX (with noctua industrial 2000)
If I would raise to 46 or 47 then I should have raise the Vcore but I don't want to go over 70C to be honest. I could raise the speed of the fans but it would be too "loud" for me. So that is the sweet spot. Not too hot not too loud and healthy for my CPU smile.gif

Setting load line higher than normal helps significantly on Gigabyte boards.
post #602 of 1636
any one tried the new f7p bios for the gigabyte , well the xmp is now fixed .

i have gskill riphaws 2400mhz ripjaws v , how do i over clock them to say 2800mhz , will the mobo adjust the timings on its own as asus mbo does , hell on rampage v i am stable at 2800mhz with stock voltages actual ram speed is 2133mhz .

need to see how to oc the rams , so help is needed here - do i need to play with the timings as well its 15 15 15 35 1.2v
post #603 of 1636
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Update- z170 Gaming-G1 BIOS f7f seems to work fine with my Corsair 3200 memory and no issues detecting the XMP profile like the F6 BIOS versions. Still testing, but looks like I will no longer have to use F5i.

how to over clock the rams , as the process is very simple on asus mobos . i have gskill 2400mhz ripjaws v , i want to oc to min 2800mhz , so how to do it . which option to change if only i want to oc the rams
post #604 of 1636
you will need to bump the timings up and you will need around 1.35v to run 2800 if you cam get there. You should bump it all up a little at a time. My XMP shows 15 16 16 35 51 T2 for 2800 and 1.25v but mine is 2800 RAM not 2400.
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I got to tell you guys what got my 2800 MHz ram stable wasn't just setting XMP but bumping up the system agent voltage up 0.05v on my X99. Not sure if it's the same on Z170.
post #606 of 1636
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you will need to bump the timings up and you will need around 1.35v to run 2800 if you cam get there. You should bump it all up a little at a time. My XMP shows 15 16 16 35 51 T2 for 2800 and 1.25v but mine is 2800 RAM not 2400.

4 x 8gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-2800mhz on my ASUS Sabertooth x99 runs on XMP @ 1.2v @ CPU/BLCK 100. Entirely stable.

2 x 8gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200mhz on my Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming-5 runs on XMP @ 1.35v @ CPU/BLCK 100. Entirely stable

Anyway, point is volts and stability, much fun! I've seen one 8gb module DDR4-3000+ kit (can't recall brand) running at 1.2v XMP! now that's good ram, right?

It seems memory is still very vendor specific these days. I wish I understood why one set or ram doesn't work on all motherboards that support its speed. I just don't know the underlying technical reason for the compatibility issues and I am just talking stock speeds and/or XMP.
Edited by Undermoose - 2/11/16 at 6:32pm
post #607 of 1636
so i should increase the voltages of ram from 1.2 to 1.3 volts to see if stable
post #608 of 1636
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4 x 8gb Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4-2800mhz on my ASUS Sabertooth x99 runs on XMP @ 1.2v @ CPU/BLCK 100. Entirely stable.

2 x 8gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4-3200mhz on my Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming-5 runs on XMP @ 1.35v @ CPU/BLCK 100. Entirely stable

Anyway, point is volts and stability, much fun! I've seen one 8gb module DDR4-3000+ kit (can't recall brand) running at 1.2v XMP! now that's good ram, right?

It seems memory is still very vendor specific these days. I wish I understood why one set or ram doesn't work on all motherboards that support its speed. I just don't know the underlying technical reason for the compatibility issues and I am just talking stock speeds and/or XMP.

My 2800 kit would not run XMP at 1.2v but I bumped it to 1.275v and XMP and it worked just fine, it actually only used 1.25v so it only used what it needed. Not all RAM, mobo's and CPU's are the same so that's why I recommend playing with the volts and timings or in other words manual overclocking instead of XMP because the XMP timings and volts are just a best guess under lab conditions. I know until the Z170 platform this has not been much of an issue but because until recently DDR4 and it's XMP profiles were designed with X99 in mind, mobo and RAM manufacturers have been scrambling to get it right with new RAM and updated XMP and also bios updates on mobo's to combat the issue.
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My 2800 kit would not run XMP at 1.2v but I bumped it to 1.275v and XMP and it worked just fine, it actually only used 1.25v so it only used what it needed. Not all RAM, mobo's and CPU's are the same so that's why I recommend playing with the volts and timings or in other words manual overclocking instead of XMP because the XMP timings and volts are just a best guess under lab conditions. I know until the Z170 platform this has not been much of an issue but because until recently DDR4 and it's XMP profiles were designed with X99 in mind, mobo and RAM manufacturers have been scrambling to get it right with new RAM and updated XMP and also bios updates on mobo's to combat the issue.

Yes, I think that's true, and definitely XMP needs tweaking on some memory mobo combinations.

I just don't quite understand why this is needed for what is intended to be plug and play. I can certainly understand if you're trying to get something more than spec out of performance. I also understand real world, this happens. I just wish I understood why this happens. I bet the manufacturers do too rolleyes.gif

My personal experience has been mixed with my ram as well. It may work perfectly until a mobo manufacturer updates a motherboard BIOS and then XMP may stop working. At present both my motherboards run XMP without needing any tweaks.
Edited by Undermoose - 2/13/16 at 6:28am
post #610 of 1636
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Yes, I think that's true, and definitely XMP needs tweaking on some memory mobo combinations.

I just don't quite understand why this is needed for what is intended to be plug and play. I can certainly understand if you're trying to get something more than spec out of performance. I also understand real world, this happens. I just wish I understood why this happens. I bet the manufacturers do too rolleyes.gif

My personal experience has been mixed with my ram as well. It may work perfectly until a mobo manufacturer updates a motherboard BIOS and then XMP may stop working. At present both my motherboards run XMP without needing any tweaks.

Because the Z170 chipset seems to have so many problems with XMP I am sticking to manual overclock.

Check out this video. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kobfePvWokY
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