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Thanks for the reply. Is the transition from frame doubling up to 40 fps nice and smooth? Any problems when getting up to 144fps with stuttering etc?

In my experience the transition from normal FreeSync Range to frame doubling has been the same transition I see from 60 FPS to 59 FPS, or any other FPS number inside the FreeSync Range, it looks natural, just like if it was part of the Native FreeSync Range, stuttering is a non Issue at any Frame Rate.

There's one thing though, when going above 144 FPS in games like Battlefield 4 or any game really, there's this small increase in brightness for a fraction of a second, maybe lasting around 5 Milliseconds or so (Little over half a frame), it always happen when you get out of the FreeSync Range above 144 FPS, and if you oscillate around 143 and 145 FPS then you'll see it each time you get in and out the FreeSync Range, although it doesn't impact performance or any other aspect of anyone's gaming experience, I would say it's a minor visual imperfection.

You can always use Vsync in Game to cap the Framerate to 144 FPS so this never happens, Vsync Plus FreeSync works wonders, if you don't already know Vsync can be used on top of FreeSync so both combined can deliver an incredible experience, whenever at 144 FPS capped Vsync takes over with No Extra Input lag, the Vsync Input lag comes when you dip below 144 FPS to 143 FPS, but when this happens FreeSync comes in replacing Vsync, thus eliminating any Input Lag associated with Vsync, this happens automatically whenever you enable Vsync while having FreeSync enabled.

Also you can use AMD's Frame Rate Control to cap the FPS to 143 FPS, but for some reason it's not as solid as capping 60 FPS, when you use this tool to cap at 60 FPS it really caps the frame rate dead on at 60 FPS with no Variance at all, but with higher refresh rate (Beyond 120) it's more like a target number, if you set it to 143 FPS in some games it'll go varying from 140 to 150 FPS, in others is more precise, going from 142 to 145.
Edited by Dargonplay - 3/27/16 at 9:00pm
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Also you can use AMD's Frame Rate Control to cap the FPS to 143 FPS, but for some reason it's not as solid as capping 60 FPS, when you use this tool to cap at 60 FPS it really caps the frame rate dead on at 60 FPS with no Variance at all, but with higher refresh rate (Beyond 120) it's more like a target number, if you set it to 143 FPS in some games it'll go varying from 140 to 150 FPS, in others is more precise, going from 142 to 145.

I always thought this was errant info from the FPS counter...thanks for the explanation. It has occurred on every 120hz or higher panel I have ever owned.
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I always thought this was errant info from the FPS counter...thanks for the explanation. It has occurred on every 120hz or higher panel I have ever owned.

It's something that could be fixed with a Driver Update, they just need tighter control in their GPUs Rendering Pipeline, it's dramatically easier to control the frame rate when there's only 60 of them being rendered, at 120Hz and beyond that's more than double the precision needed and a small miscalculation will escalate much higher.

I trust they will fix it after Polaris have launched, either by a driver update or using the better hardware Scheduling on Polaris to gain better control on the Pipeline, 120Hz plus users aren't really a top priority as we are still a small percentage of the market, also Vsync on top of FreeSync works wonders.
Edited by Dargonplay - 3/29/16 at 10:03am
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Looks like I will be upgrading to the BenQ XL2730Z. I was going to get the Acer XF270HU but I've read that has QC issues and blur issues with freesync. frown.gif

I guess a TN panel will be fine for me so fingers crossed I get a good unit. biggrin.gif
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So I got this monitor a few days ago, but have been having problems with the pixel inversion. It was one of the first things I noticed out of the box, and it hasn't really gotten any less noticeable since. Running this test from blur busters seemed to highlight the problem. http://www.testufo.com/#test=inversion When running the test, I get these distinct green and magenta horizontal lines that heavily distort the square. Here's a photo of the result. http://i.imgur.com/XxqsFgI.jpg Here's the same test on my old monitor for comparison. http://i.imgur.com/gzAVdxb.jpg

Anyways, I don't want to deal with this problem anymore and since there doesn't seem to be any way to fix it, I'll probably just return it. But I did get the monitor for a really good price, so I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to go for an exchange. Would a replacement potentially not suffer from the same problem or should I just get a different monitor altogether?

Hi guys,

I've returned one a while ago exactly for this issue.

There is a level in StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void where you move your base around on a platform. That platform has yellow stripped of solid yellow.
Yet, whenever moving it those yellow parts would become something like semi transparent due to the issue above.

It ended up being the only thing I could see, and I've also seen it the same on the PG278Q *and* the Acer XB27-something.

They all seem to use the same AU optronics panel with 2K res. My bet is the Dell S2716DG also has it.

Can someone with a recent purchase date confirm this issue is still present on the XL2730Z?
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Hi guys,

I've returned one a while ago exactly for this issue.

There is a level in StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void where you move your base around on a platform. That platform has yellow stripped of solid yellow.
Yet, whenever moving it those yellow parts would become something like semi transparent due to the issue above.

It ended up being the only thing I could see, and I've also seen it the same on the PG278Q *and* the Acer XB27-something.

They all seem to use the same AU optronics panel with 2K res. My bet is the Dell S2716DG also has it.

Can someone with a recent purchase date confirm this issue is still present on the XL2730Z?

Like you said, all of the monitors that use the AUO TN panel have that issue. It's a very common complaint in the DELL thread.
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Okay I am about to order this monitor. Is everyone happy with their purchase? hahaha.
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So I got this monitor a few days ago, but have been having problems with the pixel inversion. It was one of the first things I noticed out of the box, and it hasn't really gotten any less noticeable since. Running this test from blur busters seemed to highlight the problem. http://www.testufo.com/#test=inversion When running the test, I get these distinct green and magenta horizontal lines that heavily distort the square. Here's a photo of the result. http://i.imgur.com/XxqsFgI.jpg Here's the same test on my old monitor for comparison. http://i.imgur.com/gzAVdxb.jpg

Anyways, I don't want to deal with this problem anymore and since there doesn't seem to be any way to fix it, I'll probably just return it. But I did get the monitor for a really good price, so I'm wondering if it would be worthwhile to go for an exchange. Would a replacement potentially not suffer from the same problem or should I just get a different monitor altogether?

Hi guys,

I've returned one a while ago exactly for this issue.

There is a level in StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void where you move your base around on a platform. That platform has yellow stripped of solid yellow.
Yet, whenever moving it those yellow parts would become something like semi transparent due to the issue above.

It ended up being the only thing I could see, and I've also seen it the same on the PG278Q *and* the Acer XB27-something.

They all seem to use the same AU optronics panel with 2K res. My bet is the Dell S2716DG also has it.

Can someone with a recent purchase date confirm this issue is still present on the XL2730Z?

Check post #151 in this thread for my response. (I'm on Tapatalk so I can't quote it.)
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On my XL2720Z, the right rectangle is green and the middle one is magenta. I've noticed that if i bring sharpness down to 0, the issue is completely removed (the image is way too blurry, though).

Fortunately, I haven't seen a game where this is visible, not even in the StarCraft Legacy level I mentioned in my earlier post.

I'll try to post a movie later on, with both issues.
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On my XL2720Z, the right rectangle is green and the middle one is magenta. I've noticed that if i bring sharpness down to 0, the issue is completely removed (the image is way too blurry, though).

Fortunately, I haven't seen a game where this is visible, not even in the StarCraft Legacy level I mentioned in my earlier post.

I'll try to post a movie later on, with both issues.

Does it minimize a bit as your drop sharpness values or does it just occur the same until sharpness is set to absolute 0?
Also have you tried a 2 meter or shorter DP cable? I am using an Accel 2 meter recommended by AMDMatt with no inversion issues present that I could find in any game so far. I believe any DP cable 1.2a that is 2 meters or shorter should be fine too. I ordered a Belkin 2M because they are my preferred cable vendor and I heard the Accel has some bad pin configuration and is not 100% VESA standard. (cannot confirm this just planning ahead with alternate cables)
My rig is down for a pump/res replacement but once it is back on I will run the Lagom test to see if I can get any negative results there. I don't play SC sorry so I couldn't test that for you.

Cable length being as short as possible really does make a difference. I tossed the cable the monitor came with in a box and labeled it 144hz with a big ?....for future testing
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