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Well, the only other monitor that can match its feature set is the > $1000 Eizo Foris FS2735, which has an annoying imperfect overdrive option that would require changing it depending on your refresh rate and whether or not you're using blur reduction. And it has a bunch of IPS glow.

Plus the XL2730Z might be the safest choice as far as 2560 x 1440 144 Hz monitors go. Fewer reports of defects than others. I consider it a no brainer for AMD users.

I'd like to say that the Eizo FS2735 doesn't have an "imperfect" overdrive, if anything is actually the best.

Monitors like the Acer XF270HU extend the Freesync range beyond what the IPS panel is really rated for without issues and generate huge amounts of blur.

Eizo knows better, they're using a native implementation of Freesync on IPS panels, the upper range of 56-144Hz is perfect because with Crimson drivers Freesync no longer have a lower Freesync window, it'll work from 1 to 144 FPS without issues on this upper range.

The only reason why the Eizo have these two Freesync Windows is that it was developed back when Freesync still had these limited ranges, so they were offering the user a "Choice", they didn't tried to do what Acer did, they didn't screwed the monitor by forcing it to scale into ranges that it simply doesn't natively support.

This is why you heard about Freesync ranges being advertised a little bit before, and not anymore, it simply does not matter, you will have no tearing at any range as long it doesn't go above 144Hz or the maximum refresh rate of your monitor.

The FS2735 is truly the best gaming monitor you can buy right now, much better than the XB and PG IPS ones IMO, and you have the outstanding Eizo warranty.

Besides the Eizo the 2nd best is the XL2730Z for sure, at least as Freesync goes.
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I'd like to say that the Eizo FS2735 doesn't have an "imperfect" overdrive, if anything is actually the best.

Monitors like the Acer XF270HU extend the Freesync range beyond what the IPS panel is really rated for without issues and generate huge amounts of blur.

Eizo knows better, they're using a native implementation of Freesync on IPS panels, the upper range of 56-144Hz is perfect because with Crimson drivers Freesync no longer have a lower Freesync window, it'll work from 1 to 144 FPS without issues on this upper range.

The only reason why the Eizo have these two Freesync Windows is that it was developed back when Freesync still had these limited ranges, so they were offering the user a "Choice", they didn't tried to do what Acer did, they didn't screwed the monitor by forcing it to scale into ranges that it simply doesn't natively support.

This is why you heard about Freesync ranges being advertised a little bit before, and not anymore, it simply does not matter, you will have no tearing at any range as long it doesn't go above 144Hz or the maximum refresh rate of your monitor.

The FS2735 is truly the best gaming monitor you can buy right now, much better than the XB and PG IPS ones IMO, and you have the outstanding Eizo warranty.

Besides the Eizo the 2nd best is the XL2730Z for sure, at least as Freesync goes.

I'm aware it doesn't have the XF270HU's issues for this reason (smarter implementation of two FreeSync ranges), but what I was referring to was how TFTCentral's review shows that overdrive set to Enhanced is best for 144 Hz, but has a lot of ghosting at 60 Hz.

Also the G-SYNC variants have about a 1ms faster response time at high refresh rates, and with this overdrive mode never have ghosting at lower refresh rates. No idea about Eizo's QC though, for the price it better be spot on.
 
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It's not true that there is no longer tearing on FreeSync monitors if you go out of the stated refresh range. LFC is not the same thing as true FreeSync. First of all, to even support LFC the monitor's maximum refresh rate has to be 2.5 times the minimum refresh rate. There is still tearing, judder, and lag depending on the settings being used.

http://www.amd.com/Documents/freesync-lfc.pdf
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It's not true that there is no longer tearing on FreeSync monitors if you go out of the stated refresh range. LFC is not the same thing as true FreeSync. First of all, to even support LFC the monitor's maximum refresh rate has to be 2.5 times the minimum refresh rate. There is still tearing, judder, and lag depending on the settings being used.

http://www.amd.com/Documents/freesync-lfc.pdf

Yes, we know this, but we're talking about 144Hz monitors here, not a single 144Hz monitor suffer from a lower Freesync range.

The only monitors with lower Freesync range are those with 60Hz refresh rate.
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This is a behemoth for connecting a crossfire/SLI Gaming PC, TV, Monitor and peripherals, very beefy PSU with ACTIVE PFC.

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I don't doubt there are beefier ones but 950W is enough for 95% of enthusiasts.

I would prefer a Tripp-Lite, Belkin or APC variant but this certainly will do. thumb.gif
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I planning to buy a freesync 1440p monitor and I'm leaning towards the Benq XL2730z or the Asus MG279Q , but the asus one is 100 EUR more expensive than the Benq. I will be mainly use the monitor to game and browse. Which one would you suggest out of these ?

Acer XF270HU 1440p 144Hz IPS
Acer XG270HU 1440p 144Hz TN
Asus MG279Q 1440p 144Hz IPS
BENQ XL2730Z 1440p 144Hz TN

Or should I wait for the new AOC monitor that will release in a week if I'm not mistaken
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I planning to buy a freesync 1440p monitor and I'm leaning towards the Benq XL2730z or the Asus MG279Q , but the asus one is 100 EUR more expensive than the Benq. I will be mainly use the monitor to game and browse. Which one would you suggest out of these ?

Acer XF270HU 1440p 144Hz IPS
Acer XG270HU 1440p 144Hz TN
Asus MG279Q 1440p 144Hz IPS
BENQ XL2730Z 1440p 144Hz TN

Or should I wait for the new AOC monitor that will release in a week if I'm not mistaken

Waiting a week can't hurt. The XF270HU is full of disasters, avoid it at all costs. The XG270HU is made pointless by the XL2730Z unless you can't afford the XL2730Z. There's no real reason to get the MG279Q over the XL2730Z; the MG279Q only has a 30-90 Hz FreeSync range and changing it to 57-144 is an annoying process apparently. It lacks blur reduction too and costs more, all for better viewing angles.

So wait and see if a new AOC monitor comes out, otherwise I vote for the XL2730Z.
 
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Waiting a week can't hurt. The XF270HU is full of disasters, avoid it at all costs. The XG270HU is made pointless by the XL2730Z unless you can't afford the XL2730Z. There's no real reason to get the MG279Q over the XL2730Z; the MG279Q only has a 30-90 Hz FreeSync range and changing it to 57-144 is an annoying process apparently. It lacks blur reduction too and costs more, all for better viewing angles.

So wait and see if a new AOC monitor comes out, otherwise I vote for the XL2730Z.

The Benq XL2730Z is 20 Eur more expensive , so yh it's no that much. Btw is there any official information regarding the pricing of those new AOC monitors ?

Edit: the MSRP of AG241QX is 449 Eur this is the Freesync version while the AG241QG G-sync version has an MSRP of 599 EUR
Edited by Barca130 - 7/26/16 at 11:59am
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Anyone having any issues with the monitor cutting out for a few seconds before turning back on?
I only had this when I switched on the powerstrip that I only use for my active speakers. Seems the monitor is very sensitive to such fluctuation, while nothing else is effected.
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Waiting a week can't hurt. The XF270HU is full of disasters, avoid it at all costs. The XG270HU is made pointless by the XL2730Z unless you can't afford the XL2730Z. There's no real reason to get the MG279Q over the XL2730Z; the MG279Q only has a 30-90 Hz FreeSync range and changing it to 57-144 is an annoying process apparently. It lacks blur reduction too and costs more, all for better viewing angles.

So wait and see if a new AOC monitor comes out, otherwise I vote for the XL2730Z.

Agree with this 100%
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