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post #821 of 1097
Bitspower told me that they are out of stock on the blocks, more available on the 19th. Hopefully they ain't telling me BS.
post #822 of 1097
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http://www.bitspower.com.tw/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=173_268_270_277&products_id=4037

This is the waterblock I am going for. Need suggestions for other parts.
Also from looking at the case, it seems I may be able to mount the radiator up the very top of the case. Not sure where the reservoir goes.
The radiator looks like it can be the length of 2 of those 120 mm fans, but only the width of 1. Will that be enough? Or should I consider taking the radiator out of the case entirely and going for superman size? XD

Thinking of using this as my radiator:
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/23458/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-240mm

If I do, I will have to change the orientation of my CPU heatsink. However considering that the space will be really bad, maybe I should consider dumping the CPU heatsink and use a water cooler for that as well. As long as my Intel core i7 4790K can do 4.5 GHz, then I'm okay with that.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2eq8d4o.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/2ngzytu.jpg
http://i67.tinypic.com/1218i8o.jpg
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The Bitspower block is nice, but the radiator is very thick which would make it difficult to mount in the top of the case, probably a 240 that's 45mm thick or even 30mm would be fine. If the case has radiator mount points in the bottom of the case that would make it easy to setup and have a bay res with pump as high as possible. pccasegear have some pretty good stuff, get most of mine from them including the Lightning smile.gif
Also the thicker 120 rad cpu cooler works quite well for a 4790 as they do get hot.
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post #823 of 1097
Was also considering the asic rating and its impact on overclocking,

I could be wrong but I seem to remember it being a measure of leakage current, which I was thinking likely relates to the amount of voltage droop you get under load.

So what I was thinking was, if you have a high asic, you don't get much droop and therefore likely get a better clocking chip. but it still is impacted by how much boost it has at its default voltage hence how much clocking overhead it actually has.

On the other hand if you have a low asic your clock stability is governed by the minimum vcore it drops to, but you can still raise your set vcore higher to improve that. Until you reach the voltage limit that is.

so lets say you have two cards

card#1 85% 1500@1200mv set 1185mv min
card#2 60% 1500@1225mv set 1150mv min

while it takes card#2 more voltage to hold 1500, you might actually be able to get higher clocks than card#1 if you can raise it to 1260mv set which would give it the same 1185mv min as card#1.
Assuming both cards scale the same then card#1 would always win as at 1300mv it would have 1285mv min whether card#2 would always be lower, but if card#2 was just held back by its vdroop (lower min voltage) and voltage and temp weren't a consideration then card#2 would win.

Probably more to it than that, but would been a reasonable explanation why high asics are more stable on air at lower voltages and why low asics do better with more voltage but require better cooling due to the heat. Also that quality is more to do with stable clock at a min vcore point.
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post #824 of 1097
Difficult to fit, but not impossible right?
Could it be screwed in using those holes up there? From what I can see, it should mount up there just fine. It's just that I want adequate heat dissipation to match the amount of incoming heat.
post #825 of 1097
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Difficult to fit, but not impossible right?
Could it be screwed in using those holes up there? From what I can see, it should mount up there just fine. It's just that I want adequate heat dissipation to match the amount of incoming heat.

It can be screwed up the top holes with no problems, its how far it hangs down that would be you issue. I think it would cover alot of the top edge of the motherboard, could possibly hit heatsinks and may even have problems with the cpu water cooler for clearance?
On the other hand if you look at the factory water cooled cards they do fine with a slim 120, so a thinner 240 would be ample. I had a thin 240 on a 690 gtx and that was down in the low 50's under load. Depending on ambient temp that's the kind of temps I would expect from a clocked and volted 980ti on water.
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post #826 of 1097
I was a stupid question
Edited by smil0r - 2/4/16 at 2:48pm
post #827 of 1097
Here's an idea. Why don't someone post on the front page a how to if you will basic overclocking etc. common issues or none issues type thing for the customers who keep coming here asking questions because they have no useful information from any direction with this card?

I think that would make people happy and you could say look at the front page in the how to section.
post #828 of 1097
hello I have to choose between 980 gigabyte ti Waterforce or lightning, you recommend?
post #829 of 1097
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hello I have to choose between 980 gigabyte ti Waterforce or lightning, you recommend?
I would recommend waiting for Pascal.
post #830 of 1097
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I would recommend waiting for Pascal.
Now I have no card frown.gif
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