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post #421 of 3056
I never posted my experience in this thread (did in the other one tho) but I'm a happy X34 owner.

Got it from the very fist newegg pre-order window.

+Hits 100 hz no problem
+High FPS in AAA games (2 x Titan Xs in SLI)
+No coil wine
+No dead pixels
+g-sync keeps things smooth when framerate jumps around
+i like the red/white LED function to show when g-sync is active
(EDIT):
+No scan-lines in any GAMES or any other REAL WORLD task. However, I have NOT run the nvidia g-sync demo and dont plan to because I dont care what it shows. No lines in gaming and productivity = fine with me.

-"normal" amount of BLB/IPS glow (about the same as my previous LG 34" curved which uses the same panel as the X34) in top and bottom left corners)
-suffers from the half-black screen on wake from sleep (I don't use sleep mode normally but I tested it to confirm my X34 has this issue)
-"PREDATOR" logo in the bottom bezel looks cheap.
-had a little "teething" issues in a couple of titles to get 100 hz refresh rate (Far Cry 4 required doing a DDU uninstall/reinstall to keep it from BSOD upon launch. And Arma 3 requires an *.ini edit to support any refresh rate >60, though neither of these is really the X34's fault). Fallout 4 also requires some ini editing to support 3440 x 1440 but does support >60 fps without the edit.

Great experience in Witcher 3, Fallout 4, and Fry Cry 4, and War Thunder. However, in a game like Ark, which is server locked at 30 fps, there is no benefit of the X34 over my previous LG 34uc97-p.

Won't be sending it back.
Edited by skypine27 - 11/17/15 at 8:19pm
post #422 of 3056
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Originally Posted by Mountainlifter View Post


My adapter part is ADP-135KB T. is this the same as yours?

Same adapter here.

Not sure if anyone saw yet, but Acer-Cory somewhat acknowledged the issue last night.

"All,

I want to assure everyone that discussion and research is happening. I know you all want a statement, but there isn't one to share at this point. I'm still watching, reading and sending info to key teams daily. Any information we have will be shared here first.

Cory"

So, at least there was that. Unfortunately that doesn't give those of us within our return periods any straight answers. Also, as Funford pointed out, I've noticed some heavy censorship between my few visits there, and I barely go there.
Edited by Smokey the Bear - 11/17/15 at 11:50am
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I'm on the run here (already late for work), so I can't post my part number... but I'll try to do so later.

Here's the thing. NCIX has a return policy of 30 days. After that, I have to deal with Acer. But Acer isn't even acknowledging this issue. I only have 5 days left to return this monitor - my window is closing fast and I'm getting a little nervous here.

As I've written in my posts above, I can eliminate scan lines in every game I own by adjusting the X34's overclock, essentially matching the refresh rate with the average frame rate of whatever game I'm playing. I love this monitor to death. That said, if these scanlines are not the result of an aggressive overclock, but of faulty design or production, then obviously I would be better off returning the monitor regardless of how much I like it. I'm also wondering if maybe the scanlines will become more prominent? Some people are saying they can't get rid of their lines, and that's worrisome. If this issue develops for me, and Acer continues to remain silent, then I'm going to be very angry and very disappointed.

I'm really unhappy right now with Acer's decision to keep quiet about this issue. It seems that this is how companies are proceeding these days. The big software developers do the same thing. They release games that don't work, and then just sit back silently as 'the community' attempts to solve the problem on their own using limited tools.

That guy from Acer... Cory... I'm sorry, but he's useless. He needs to address this issue, and instead he's just keeping quiet. Clearly he's read about the issue, but he's just ignoring it. I'm very frustrated with him.

Mountainlifter, I'd like to hear your thoughts about returning the monitor. I believe that you and I have exactly the same issue, and you clearly have a better understanding of this than I do. Your excellent chart is in harmony with what I'm seeing on my own monitor, so your counsel would be very valuable to me.

Will you be returning your X34?

Really return it and wait for a fix. Or return it and order it again. Perhaps ur more lucky this time.
post #424 of 3056
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No scanlines. This is my adapter, plugged in behind a sine wave form UPS, mains is 230 V 50 Hz.


Alaindor, sorry about this... but just to be perfectly clear... you've overclocked your X34 to 100Hz... you've gone into the pendulum demo and lowered the frame rate to 35 FPS, with your frequency showing as 35 in yellow on the top right of the monitor... you've then switched between Gsync and no sync, and you're not seeing any scanlines whatsoever... not even up in the left side of the monitor where the lines seem most prominent?

Could you take a screenshot of this?

Alaindor, if you really have no scanlines, then I'm seriously going to have to think about returning my display, and I've only got a few days left. If you have no issues at all, then it means nobody should. I must have missed your screenshot? Could you please re-post it? Alaindor, thank you for this.
post #425 of 3056
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Alaindor, sorry about this... but just to be perfectly clear... you've overclocked your X34 to 100Hz... you've gone into the pendulum demo and lowered the frame rate to 35 FPS, with your frequency showing as 35 in yellow on the top right of the monitor... you've then switched between Gsync and no sync, and you're not seeing any scanlines whatsoever... not even up in the left side of the monitor where the lines seem most prominent?

Could you take a screenshot of this?

Alaindor, if you really have no scanlines, then I'm seriously going to have to think about returning my display, and I've only got a few days left. If you have no issues at all, then it means nobody should. I must have missed your screenshot? Could you please re-post it? Alaindor, thank you for this.

JC already did this and posted pictures. His was scanline free, and made me want to order a replacement. Whether his panel will develop them or not is unclear. It's ACER's stance and attitude that has left me unsure about said replacement.
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post #426 of 3056
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JC already did this and posted pictures. His was scanline free, and made me want to order a replacement. Whether his panel will develop them or not is unclear. It's ACER's stance and attitude that has left me unsure about said replacement.

I'm confused? Who is JC? I was asking Alaindor? Is that his real name? Sorry, but I never saw his screenshot.
post #427 of 3056
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I'm confused? Who is JC? I was asking Alaindor? Is that his real name? Sorry, but I never saw his screenshot.

Jcde7ago is a user on these forums who shared pictures and discussion of his panel in the other, much bigger x34 thread. He claimed to have no scan lines and provided images of his tests proving such. If you need other users to do this for you, that's fine, more the merrier I s'pose, but it's been done. There were two other users (funford and beth) in the same few pages that also did these tests showing they had very little to no scanlines in the pendulum demo, with GSYNC enabled and an fps of 40. While I personally was unsure of both Beth's and Funford's pictures, it was clear their panels weren't as bad as mine, and they stood by the claim they had none. JC's pictures were very clear to me, so I pointed him out.

I also know you don't have too much time, so I thought this may be faster.
Edited by Smokey the Bear - 11/17/15 at 12:54pm
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Jcde7ago is a user on these forums who shared pictures and discussion of his panel in the other, much bigger x34 thread. He claimed to have no scan lines and provided images of his tests proving such. If you need other users to do this for you, that's fine, more the merrier I s'pose, but it's been done. There were two other users (funford and beth) in the same few pages that also did these tests showing they had very little to no scanlines in the pendulum demo, with GSYNC enabled and an fps of 40. While I personally was unsure of both Beth's and Funford's pictures, it was clear their panels weren't as bad as mine, and they stood by the claim they had none. JC's pictures were very clear to me, so I pointed him out.

I also know you don't have too much time, so I thought this may be faster.

I've got a display that works with every game, so I'm obviously not going to return it unless there's STRONG evidence that other people have panels that exhibit no scan lines at all.

We need more evidence of this. People like Alaindor are important, because they have working monitors. But we need to be sceptical about this. Sorry, but we do. This is the internet. If a person says they have no scan lines, and they refuse to provide a simple screenshot, then I have no choice but to dismiss what they say. Typically I find that if you ask for a screenshot of something as evidence, and somebody refuses to provide it, they end up getting angry at you, and just say, fine, don't believe me then, I couldn't care less. And then they call you a bad name.

What we need is the following.

1) The person must display the frequency of the monitor in yellow at 100Hz up in the right corner. The frame rate must be capped to 31 FPS, with the frame counter showing.
2) Then we need two screenshots. One with Gsync on, and the other with Vsync off.

These screenshots obviously must be clear enough, and close enough, for us to see that there are no scan lines in both screenshots.

Is this asking too much? Surely not. This would be the MINIMUM I would ask for.
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I've got a display that works with every game, so I'm obviously not going to return it unless there's STRONG evidence that other people have panels that exhibit no scan lines at all.

We need more evidence of this. People like Alaindor are important, because they have working monitors. But we need to be sceptical about this. Sorry, but we do. This is the internet. If a person says they have no scan lines, and they refuse to provide a simple screenshot, then I have no choice but to dismiss what they say. Typically I find that if you ask for a screenshot of something as evidence, and somebody refuses to provide it, they end up getting angry at you, and just say, fine, don't believe me then, I couldn't care less. And then they call you a bad name.

What we need is the following.

1) The person must display the frequency of the monitor in yellow at 100Hz up in the right corner. The frame rate must be capped to 31 FPS, with the frame counter showing.
2) Then we need two screenshots. One with Gsync on, and the other with Vsync off.

These screenshots obviously must be clear enough, and close enough, for us to see that there are no scan lines in both screenshots.

Is this asking too much? Surely not. This would be the MINIMUM I would ask for.

Again, three users have done what you're asking. You can not fake the lack of or presence of scan lines.

I don't disagree with you, but if you feel you have time for this (again) then that is a-ok by me. I'm just trying to save you some time.
Edited by Smokey the Bear - 11/17/15 at 1:32pm
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Alaindor, sorry about this... but just to be perfectly clear... you've overclocked your X34 to 100Hz... you've gone into the pendulum demo and lowered the frame rate to 35 FPS, with your frequency showing as 35 in yellow on the top right of the monitor... you've then switched between Gsync and no sync, and you're not seeing any scanlines whatsoever... not even up in the left side of the monitor where the lines seem most prominent?

Could you take a screenshot of this?

Alaindor, if you really have no scanlines, then I'm seriously going to have to think about returning my display, and I've only got a few days left. If you have no issues at all, then it means nobody should. I must have missed your screenshot? Could you please re-post it? Alaindor, thank you for this.


You're right, I never posted any pics yet... Here you go, strictly following your op mode. You can see with gsync on, off (and incidentally vsync on), global and left views. I started with the flash and then dropped it but I'm posting it all.

Maybe I'm not looking at the right thing, or maybe I need to change glasses... but I still can't see those scan lines. Don't hesitate to ask for more if I'm on the wrong track or if you need "closer close-ups" (those were taken roughly 12 inches from the screen).







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