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post #991 of 3066
I was reading the posts about the 348Q in this thread (mostly complaints) and I decided to show what I think about all this. In my opinion the ASUS 348Q may have way less issues than the X34, even having the same panel, for a couple of reasons:

1: No 100hz lottery anymore

Until proven wrong, the monitor is a 100hz out of the box. This means ASUS is doing all the overclocking, and they'll most probably make sure all the panels reach that refresh rate. That's one less problem when comparing with the X34, which comes as a 60hz monitor, and struggles to reach 100hz for most users.

2: They're taking their time before releasing it

One may disagree with this, and I'm totally OK with it, but the PG348Q was announced long ago, and only now it's about to be released. They had plenty of time to make it work properly, enough time to even see their competitor's issues and manage to fix them. Also I've heard that the last Swift monitor had many problems as well, so that's one more reason for them to make things right this time.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm not an ASUS fanboy, neither had any recent products from them. But after reading about this and doing some research, this is what I've concluded. I really want this monitor to not be a failure, because I think 21:9 is the way to go and should become a standart in a near future (much better than that 4k gimmick), and for people like me, that will have to import such monitor and pay around 2K for it, it's better be working flawlessly. It all depends on ASUS. Fingers crossed!
Edited by Wagnelles - 1/15/16 at 3:16pm
post #992 of 3066

The Acer too was supposed to be 100 Hz out of the box, I think we will just have a repeat of the same situation. And for what we know Acer might have just started developing the monitor earlier than Asus, and that's why it seems to us that they are taking their time with the release.

 

We will discover it soon anyway :rolleyes:

post #993 of 3066
If the Asus does 100 Hz guaranteed I think there is no binning going on, but rather LG has gotten better yields in terms of what panels qualify for higher refresh rates. Similar to how new batches of the old XB270HU now do 165 Hz - just like the newer XB271HU.

So it wouldn't surprise me that newer batches of the X34 also have the same benefit, but we'll see. Not long to wait now.
post #994 of 3066
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Originally Posted by -terabyte- View Post

The Acer too was supposed to be 100 Hz out of the box, I think we will just have a repeat of the same situation. And for what we know Acer might have just started developing the monitor earlier than Asus, and that's why it seems to us that they are taking their time with the release.

We will discover it soon anyway rolleyes.gif

In my opinion Acer saved a lot of R&D money by selling the X34 a 60hz "overclockable" monitor. It costs a lot of money to deal with such new technologies. The word "overclockable" even made them an excuse to tell people why they can't get up to 100hz. Maybe they've tried to save even more money in general development, which led to many QC issues and angry customers. We're all expecting to see a 1.2k monitor working properly at least, right?
Edited by Wagnelles - 1/15/16 at 3:35pm
post #995 of 3066
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Originally Posted by x3sphere View Post

If the Asus does 100 Hz guaranteed I think there is no binning going on, but rather LG has gotten better yields in terms of what panels qualify for higher refresh rates. Similar to how new batches of the old XB270HU now do 165 Hz - just like the newer XB271HU.

So it wouldn't surprise me that newer batches of the X34 also have the same benefit, but we'll see. Not long to wait now.

According to the purchase link from the Swedish shop it (pg348q) does specify via overclocking. Not sure how ASUS is going to have them overclocked out of the box. Are they going to take that additional time in the production line to do the overclock and ensure there is no flickering or other issues. Seems inefficient and time consuming to do during production. I used to work as an Industrial Engineer doing line balancing and there would be a questionable time allotted to check for overclocking issues.

http://www.inet.se/produkt/2200035/asus-34-rog-swift-pg348q-g-sync-ips-curved#/moreinfo
post #996 of 3066
I think who's responsible for the 100hz thing will be LG, not Asus. As @x3sphere said, at this point LG may have better yields in terms of what panels qualify for higher refresh rates.
post #997 of 3066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wagnelles View Post

I think who's responsible for the 100hz thing will be LG, not Asus. As @x3sphere said, at this point LG may have better yields in terms of what panels qualify for higher refresh rates.

 

No, LG can't be held responsible unfortunately. The panel they sell has a 60 Hz declared rate, Acer and Asus then overclock it to 100 Hz but LG itsel cannot guarantee the panel working outside the specifics.

post #998 of 3066
This could be a different panel, like the PG279Q panel is different to the XB171HU
post #999 of 3066
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Originally Posted by Metros View Post

This could be a different panel, like the PG279Q panel is different to the XB171HU

It's the same panel. Besides the fact that many sources are saying that it will be a 100hz monitor out of the box, I'm out of arguments. We can flood Asus ROG's twitter profile asking about this until they say something only wait
post #1000 of 3066
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Originally Posted by Wagnelles View Post

It's the same panel. Besides the fact that many sources are saying that it will be a 100hz monitor out of the box, I'm out of arguments. We can flood Asus ROG's twitter profile asking about this until they say something only wait

They are actually different panels. The ASUS PG348Q might have an improved panel

"So I've been curious about all these AUOptronics panel models used in these monitors:

XB270HU: M270DAN02.3
PG279Q: M270Q008 V0
S2716DG: M270DTN01.5
XB271HU: M270DAN02.6

The PG279Q definitely being the odd-ball."

http://www.overclock.net/t/1554247/build-log-vegas-2015-chromed-copper-tube-gaming-system/160
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