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post #31 of 42
I've always used O&O Defrag
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I will have to give Mydefrag a try. Not that I need to defrag often, but I had make many changes to files.

Defraggler took over a day(2.16TB of data forget how fragmented it was). It was also moving all large files(of select extensions) to the end of the drive.
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Should one turn off Windows Optimize Drives service if I'm already using a third party defrag tool? I caught it defragging my HDD once when left to idle and it raised the temps of my HDD.
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If the windows optimize drive service is the name for their defragger than yes I would turn it off because it will try to reorganize your data in a format it prefers and then your third party one will go and re-correct it to how it wants it and now you are in a circle of unneeded read and writes.
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thanks, i thought so too as I'm using MyDefrag 4.3.1 and it sorts files differently from other defrag tools. Windows Optimize Drives seems to be using its defrag.exe so I guess, so you're right.
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post #36 of 42
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Originally Posted by svefn View Post

Should one turn off Windows Optimize Drives service if I'm already using a third party defrag tool? I caught it defragging my HDD once when left to idle and it raised the temps of my HDD.

Just bear in mind that Windows won't be defragging your SSD's when it auto-optimises (at least with W10 anyway - not sure about other versions). It'll just be running TRIM on them, which you need. So I would actually leave it on for any SSD's, unless you're running TRIM via another method thumb.gif If you don't have any SSD's, then don't worry I guess..
post #37 of 42
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Originally Posted by mixolyd View Post

Hi Techie,

I hope you don't mind me PMing you.. I saw a thread from about a year ago where you recommended MyDefrag and seemed to know what you are talking about. I followed your advice and ran the Data Disk Monthly script on my D: drive. I noticed that in the statistics page after it was done, it showed less total size for my drive. I confirmed in my computer that the drive instead of 1000GB is now 931GB. I also checked Disk management and there's no way for me to extend the partition. Any idea what happened? How can I get that space back?

    No, I don't mind the PM to get my attention, but I do want this on the forum so that it can help others.  I hope you don't mind my reproducing and answering it here.

    I know for a fact that MyDefrag didn't change this—it is something you simply hadn't noticed before.  Why do I know this?  Because Windows has never calculated the size of a drive or file correctly.  If you had told me you have a 1 TB drive, I could have told you File Explorer would show it as 931 GB before you told me what it said, because File Explorer uses 2-base math instead of the proper 10-base math, in flagrant violation of official standards, international standards, and sound logic.  1,000,000,000,000 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = 931.32.  That's the convoluted math that Windows incorrectly uses to calculate file and disk sizes.  What's worse is that it will divide by 1024 twice when converting to MB, and only once when displaying the size of a file in the Size column, resulting in three different sizes being potentially displayed for the same file or disk.  If sized exactly, your 1 TB drive could be showed as any of the following using Windows' flawed logic:
  • 0.909 TB
  • 931.32 GB
  • 953,674.3 MB
  • 976,562,500 KB

    One last test—seeing that you used the Data Disk Monthly script, I'm assuming that this is a data disk with one large partition.  Go to This PC in File Explorer, right-click the drive in question, and click Properties.  Under Capacity, you should see something like the image below:



    The "1,000" on the left side of the large Capacity number is the real size of the drive.  The smaller "931" number on the right is the incorrectly calculated version of the same thing.  Ironically, in Windows 10, Microsoft's own Calculator app now actually calculates data sizes correctly.  This is unbelievable!  Hopefully, File Explorer, Disk Management and all other system applets will follow suit soon for consistency and accuracy's sake, thus putting an end to this gross stupidity and needless confusion.


Edited by Techie007 - 8/22/16 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by Techie007 View Post

    No, I don't mind the PM to get my attention, but I do want this on the forum so that it can help others.  I hope you don't mind my reproducing and answering it here.

    I know for a fact that MyDefrag didn't change this—it is something you simply hadn't noticed before.  Why do I know this?  Because Windows has never calculated the size of a drive or file correctly.  If you had told me you have a 1 TB drive, I could have told you File Explorer would show it as 931 GB before you told me what it said, because File Explorer uses 2-base math instead of the proper 10-base math, in flagrant violation of official standards, international standards, and sound logic.  1,000,000,000,000 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = 931.32.  That's the convoluted math that Windows incorrectly uses to calculate file and disk sizes.  What's worse is that it will divide by 1024 twice when converting to MB, and only once when displaying the size of a file in the Size column, resulting in three different sizes being potentially displayed for the same file or disk.  If sized exactly, your 1 TB drive could be showed as any of the following using Windows' flawed logic:
  • 0.909 TB
  • 931.32 GB
  • 953,674.3 MB
  • 976,562,500 KB

    One last test—seeing that you used the Data Disk Monthly script, I'm assuming that this is a data disk with one large partition.  Go to This PC in File Explorer, right-click the drive in question, and click Properties.  Under Capacity, you should see something like the image below:



    The "1,000" on the left side of the large Capacity number is the real size of the drive.  The smaller "931" number on the right is the incorrectly calculated version of the same thing.  Ironically, in Windows 10, Microsoft's own Calculator app now actually calculates data sizes correctly.  This is unbelievable!  Hopefully, File Explorer, Disk Management and all other system applets will follow suit soon for consistency and accuracy's sake, thus putting an end to this gross stupidity and needless confusion.


That makes sense. Thanks so much!
post #39 of 42
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Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post

Storage drives never need to be defragged

Is this correct?
post #40 of 42
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Originally Posted by NASA View Post

Is this correct?

Holy necro. At any rate that is to your interpretation of the word "need".

You never need to defrag any drive.

On the other hand, you probably should defrag most drives, storage drives included, on occasion. Even with a storage drive, reducing wear and increasing performance is still desirable, if perhaps less necessary.

The one exception to this would be if you literally never removed or updated anything from the storage drive, and only ever performed one write operation at a time. In this case you would never have any reason to defrag it, as it would never become fragmented to begin with.
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