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post #81 of 93
Some hints:

Asus Z170 Deluxe Boot Time

10 seconds boot time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xShi7RkKqRU

bios settings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9yRmy02lPg
post #82 of 93
Hey guys, recently i noticed on the ASUS forums that we got a new BIOS Release "1402"
Let's see how it works with our current setup's... MAYBE it's the end of our troubles!
post #83 of 93
Nope! Tried it, no difference. My 16gb of Crucial 3000mhz, which is on the QVL, simply will not work on XMP. Far earlier in this thread (if you look through it), when on earlier BIOS's, I could use XMP, I could boot quickly if I enabled MRC Fast Boot - in the bios memory settings. (The fast boot option in the bios BOOT menu has never made any difference).


Using the last three bios upgrades, I can't EVER boot using the XMP. Since then, I've been running the memory at 2800mhz in auto (not manual or XMP). It runs fine, boots quickly etc.


When I was able to run the memory at 3000mhz, on XMP, if mrc fast boot was not enabled my machine took an age to boot. The last three bioses have basically disabled my ability to run this memory on XMP. However, on reflection, when it was running at 3000mhz, on xmp, my machine was unstable, sometimes it would go crazy and refused to shut down, gaming would suddenly turn choppy and the whole computer would then go a bit crazy, hanging on shut down etc etc. This only happened infrequently, so I didn't manage to diagnose it, thought it might be a game, windows install etc. Once the bios stopped my using XMP at all, going to 2800 auto solved every problem I'd ever had! So my qvl memory doesn't work properly with this mobo at its correct speed and NEVER did properly. Works fine at 2800 - annoying. Short of changing memory, nothing I can do.


Silent Scone was saying that bypassing the memory checks when running at a particular speed wasn't a good idea unless one is SURE of its stability. Once Lahatg had shown me where the MRC fast boot option was, I thought the problem was solved. It was not, if the bios doesn't want to boot normally (quickly!) with your memory at its XMP. Stop using the XMP is my advice, change speed. Or change your memory.



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Originally Posted by Silent Scone View Post

This is memory training. This option should only be enabled when adamant the memory is stable. Since day one I and others have been trying to explain to the people complaining DDR4 training routines are what cause these longer POST cycles. They are important, oddly not nearly as many people complained about this on x99. Go figure. With MRC fast boot enabled the system will not retrain the memory which can lead to undiagnosed system instability.

Memory should be tested with the proper means first, either HCI Memtest pro or Google Stress App test via Linux Mint.

Edited by oldtony - 1/3/16 at 5:42am
post #84 of 93
My mark 1 has been nothing but wonderful compared to my gaming g1. I kept the bios it came with, activated xmp, set it to 2667, tweaked some of the voltages a bit for my undervolt and it has not given me a single problem. My g1 simply would not accept any change to the ram, it would have to be set to auto and even then sometimes it would crash on me. I sent it to the store so they could test it and they reported not having a single problem with it. Obviously they did not have the same hardware as I did but none of the stuff I used on my build was old, the only thing I could think of was memory compatibility, even if my corsair set was on the QVL it was not working as intended, buying another kit and buying a new board ended up costing about the same, since I never had issues with asus in the past I decided to take a leap of faith and ended up with a winner.

I am in no way a professional overclocker, nor do I actually like pushing my stuff beyond its limits but with all the issues I had to troubleshoot with that board its almost as if the memory itself was just not a good match for the board, maybe buying a new kit would have solved the problem but I did not want to end up with an extra kit of ram sitting around ( much easier to sell a motherboard down here at the moment ). Maybe the ram has some old instructions that weren´t compatible, I honestly don´t know, but what I find amusing is that there are so many issues around these forums regarding ram and they are yet to be fixed. Knowing how some companies roll maybe they never will.
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My mark 1 has been nothing but wonderful compared to my gaming g1. I kept the bios it came with, activated xmp, set it to 2667, tweaked some of the voltages a bit for my undervolt and it has not given me a single problem. My g1 simply would not accept any change to the ram, it would have to be set to auto and even then sometimes it would crash on me. I sent it to the store so they could test it and they reported not having a single problem with it. Obviously they did not have the same hardware as I did but none of the stuff I used on my build was old, the only thing I could think of was memory compatibility, even if my corsair set was on the QVL it was not working as intended, buying another kit and buying a new board ended up costing about the same, since I never had issues with asus in the past I decided to take a leap of faith and ended up with a winner.

I am in no way a professional overclocker, nor do I actually like pushing my stuff beyond its limits but with all the issues I had to troubleshoot with that board its almost as if the memory itself was just not a good match, maybe buying a new kit would have solved the problem but I did not want to end up with an extra kit of ram sitting around ( much easier to sell a motherboard down here at the moment ). Maybe the ram has some old instructions that weren´t compatible, I honestly don´t know, but what I find amusing is that there are so many issues around these forums regarding ram and they are yet to be fixed. Knowing how some companies roll maybe they never will.

Pleasse delete this, no idea how it got posted again...
Edited by webhito - 1/3/16 at 4:50pm
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post #86 of 93
Hey you guys, I'm new here, made an account just to reply to this.

I was getting 25-30 second boots with the ASUS Z170-AR board and couldn't figure out why but I got it now...

DRAM Timing Control ->

MRC Fast Boost -> [Enabled]

MCH Full Check -> [Disabled]

After doing this I'm now down to 9.5 Seconds! Yes!
post #87 of 93
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Originally Posted by PilotRaider14 View Post

Hey you guys, I'm new here, made an account just to reply to this.

I was getting 25-30 second boots with the ASUS Z170-AR board and couldn't figure out why but I got it now...

DRAM Timing Control ->

MRC Fast Boost -> [Enabled]

MCH Full Check -> [Disabled]

After doing this I'm now down to 9.5 Seconds! Yes!


Hey There,


thanks for the hint, although for me it is still 14.5 sec to boot into windows after pressing the power on button
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Hey There,


thanks for the hint, although for me it is still 14.5 sec to boot into windows after pressing the power on button

My sabertooth mark 1 takes around that long to boot also, but without fast boot it could take around that much just to get a post screen. This platform is about as slow as my x58 was.
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What boot time should be expected with this setup; i7 6700, Z170M-Plus D4, Corsair 8GB DDR 4 2400 C14, Raider S PSU 550W,80+ SILVER, Samsung SSD 850 Evo?

I've done a UEFI fresh install of Windows 10(this is my friend's new PC). BIOS settings are on optimized defaults with fastboot enabled, UEFI first, MRC Fast Boost -> [Enabled], MCH Full Check -> [Disabled]. Best time we get after pressing the power button is around 14 seconds. That's not too bad but I feel BIOS is slowing down the boot time(windows loads in like 5,6 seconds). Any other settings I can enable or disable? BIOS is the latest ver 0701.

For comparison sake, my Asus ROG G771JW laptop with i7 4720HQ, with the same 850 EVO SSD, boots at 7,5 seconds to windows login screen after pressing the power button.
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HEy man, can you make the videos public? I cannot watch them frown.gif private video
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