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Not even close. So far away it's not even science fiction, it's just pure fantasy.
I think of humanity as vain and self righteous. I also think humanity as being a half step up the evolutionary ladder from monkeys. We're at the very beginning stages evolving into intellectual species. We don't even know what we don't know and we're too stupid, for the most part, to accept and embrace this much. Thousands of monkeys punching at typewriters. Still gaping holes in the standard model. All sorts of wacky theories of existence. Life? Still a mystery we're trying to get a grasp on. The Moon isn't even a regular destination for us let alone low earth orbit.

Born 10,000 years too soon? lol

It would be interesting to know how long our species survives. In cosmic terms, we're microbes and any number of possible events could wipe us from existence. If you think of life in those terms, all the BS we hear and see and talk about is so freaking pointless. Society needs to get past the commercialization and media driven culture before we evolve further.

I think you are selling humanity way short here. We, as a species, are extremely young at just a million years old, and 99% of our technological development has only occurred over the last 500 years, which is an infinitesimal fraction of the time we have existed. Just a little more than half a millennium ago people would have argued that sailing across the ocean was impossible. 100+ years ago people thought humans would never fly. And just 65 years ago we thought sending a man to the moon was impossible. Its absolutely stunning what advances in science and technology mankind has managed in such a short time and if the current exponential rate of progress is mapped out over a a period of just 200-300 years we could see some truly incredible stuff within the lifetimes of our 4th and 5th generational descendants.

Hell I marvel at our present day lives that we take for granted, enjoying technologies and infrastructure unimaginable just 30 years ago...
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The only problem is that this never happened. After Pluto and Eris, the third-largest TNO we've found is Makemake, which is only 60 percent of the size of Eris. So, in 23 years of searching, we've found exactly one TNO which is "about as large or larger than Pluto."

Could be that like Ceres is the big boy on the block in the asteroid belt, Pluto and Eris are the same in the Kuiper Belt and the scattered disc, respectively.

In fact I would argue that its actually fairly likely. Objects as big (relatively speaking) as Pluto and Eris would likely have cleared a lot of the matter in the far reaches of the solar system. The idea that we are ever going to find an object far larger than Pluto out there is unlikely IMO. An object that large should already be visible to current technology that we have today (which is why I tend to discount the supposed "Planet X" theories bandied about). Of course I am some dumb layman and certainly no astrophysicist so what the hell do I know?
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In fact I would argue that its actually fairly likely. Objects as big (relatively speaking) as Pluto and Eris would likely have cleared a lot of the matter in the far reaches of the solar system. The idea that we are ever going to find an object far larger than Pluto out there is unlikely IMO. An object that large should already be visible to current technology that we have today (which is why I tend to discount the supposed "Planet X" theories bandied about). Of course I am some dumb layman and certainly no astrophysicist so what the hell do I know?


The reason Planet X keeps coming up is because of unexplained anomalies in the orbits of outer planets, which could be explained by the presence of a large planet. But yeah, nothing we have beyond that suggests that there is one. I for one think that the anomalies will be figured out as being caused by collective influences from debris that just haven't been mathematically molded yet.
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I think you are selling humanity way short here. We, as a species, are extremely young at just a million years old, and 99% of our technological development has only occurred over the last 500 years, which is an infinitesimal fraction of the time we have existed. Just a little more than half a millennium ago people would have argued that sailing across the ocean was impossible. 100+ years ago people thought humans would never fly. And just 65 years ago we thought sending a man to the moon was impossible. Its absolutely stunning what advances in science and technology mankind has managed in such a short time and if the current exponential rate of progress is mapped out over a a period of just 200-300 years we could see some truly incredible stuff within the lifetimes of our 4th and 5th generational descendants.

Hell I marvel at our present day lives that we take for granted, enjoying technologies and infrastructure unimaginable just 30 years ago...

No, I think humans are vain and think far too much of themselves in the whole role of existence. We still haven't left our proverbial crib... Earth. We still don't have a full grasp of physics. We don't have a full grasp of the mechanics of life. We don't even have a full grasp of our planet or solar system. Many of our traits are still primate. Medicine is still barbaric, cut you open... figure out how drugs work by torturing animals, then throwing them at the wall and seeing if they stick. Straight old school psychiatry is still considered a science. I could go on forever.

Just because we created a bunch of fancy gadgets doesn't mean we're all that evolved. We still pollute, we still hurt people, we still bang our chests and screech like monkeys. We're basically no different from the life forms being afraid of the dark howling monosyllabic grunts at shadows and making cave paintings 10,000+ years ago.

We're at the very beginning of evolving into an advanced species, not near the end of it.
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The reason Planet X keeps coming up is because of unexplained anomalies in the orbits of outer planets, which could be explained by the presence of a large planet. But yeah, nothing we have beyond that suggests that there is one. I for one think that the anomalies will be figured out as being caused by collective influences from debris that just haven't been mathematically molded yet.

The outer planets wobble noticeably but that's not the only anomaly. Most stars are binary stars, but ours is not, which is an oddity. Thus there is a possibility that we do have a companion but it's so faint (brown dwarf) that it's invisible.

Whether Nibiru/Planet X exists is unknown but ancient scriptures do point to such a thing and call it the bringer of doom, etc.
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Not really worth a new thread....


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The new data, downlinked from the New Horizons spacecraft on Oct. 20, show that Kerberos appears to have a double-lobed shape, with the larger lobe approximately 5 miles (8 kilometers) across and the smaller lobe approximately 3 miles (5 kilometers) across. Science team members speculate from its unusual shape that Kerberos could have been formed by the merger of two smaller objects. The reflectivity of Kerberos’ surface is similar to that of Pluto’s other small moons (approximately 50 percent) and strongly suggests Kerberos, like the others, is coated with relatively clean water ice. - See more at: http://www.astrobio.net/also-in-news/last-of-plutos-moons-mysterious-kerberos-revealed-by-new-horizons/#sthash.P1qd5Wgr.dpuf

I was hoping for a little better resolution... oh well.
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The outer planets wobble noticeably but that's not the only anomaly. Most stars are binary stars, but ours is not, which is an oddity. Thus there is a possibility that we do have a companion but it's so faint (brown dwarf) that it's invisible.

Whether Nibiru/Planet X exists is unknown but ancient scriptures do point to such a thing and call it the bringer of doom, etc.

Eh.....wrong.
most star systems are *SINGLE* stars.

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/surprise-most-star-systems-are-single/
http://www.space.com/1995-astronomers-wrong-stars-single.html
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haha NASA, what a joke... I don't trust a single word they say or single heavy photoshoped images they produce.
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haha NASA, what a joke... I don't trust a single word they say or single heavy photoshoped images they produce.

Lol, wut???
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What color would the surface be ? I'm assuming blue/white
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