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Need Help With 92mm Delta Fan Pinout - EFB0912HHE "Apple/Mac Version"

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#1 ·
Trying to figure out the pinout of these fans, tried testing randomly touching + & - to a molex, but nothing seemed to get these spinning so far.

Anyone know? Typically on fans the first 2 on the left are neg then positive, but Im not sure thats the same for these bc it didnt work for me.

One wire has a red mark on it, but it also says PWM close by so I didnt wanna risk using that as + and burning the circuit before I found a definitive answer.

Any help would be great! Thanks in advance.







 
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#5 ·
Didn't work =\

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Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

Are there any other markings on the PCB next to those two center contact points? C/V/P for Current or Voltage or Power etc, S or T for Sense or Tachometer. And don't want to sound rude but are you sure you tried to power it with the 12V pin from the 4pin molex and not accidentally with the 5V pin
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It's startup voltage might be higher than that.
Yes sir, did everything, and this is something else I cam across- but I cant tell for sure which pins.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/4525-discussion-fit-a-pc-in-a-g5-powermac-enclosure/page-3

The "G" the other reply was referring to, actually it says "o/p", never seen that before...

 
#8 ·
O/P- yellow wire- feedback
VM / PWM- speed control of the fans. These are controlled by varying voltage, and you can just connect it to the + wire and use these as 3 pin fans. They won't move if you don't connect it.
G - black wire- negative (-)
VCC- red wire- positive (+)

When run as 3 wire fans, they can be speed controlled by putting them in DC mode.
 
#13 ·
O/P- yellow wire- feedback
VM / PWM- speed control of the fans. These are controlled by varying voltage, and you can just connect it to the + wire and use these as 3 pin fans. They won't move if you don't connect it.
G - black wire- negative (-)
VCC- red wire- positive (+)

When run as 3 wire fans, they can be speed controlled by putting them in DC mode.
I have a Delta 120x38mm fan that works this exact way. The pin that controls fan RPM needs 12V to run at full speed at less than 12V it throttles down to lower RPM's.
 
#9 ·
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Originally Posted by MasakakiKairi View Post

O/P- yellow wire- feedback
VM / PWM- speed control of the fans. These are controlled by varying voltage, and you can just connect it to the + wire and use these as 3 pin fans. They won't move if you don't connect it.
G - black wire- negative (-)
VCC- red wire- positive (+)

When run as 3 wire fans, they can be speed controlled by putting them in DC mode.
Sorry, but to clarify you are saying the VM/PWM is for PWM control signal. But if not using PWM to run 12v power to this connection?

Reason I ask is normally when using a PWM fan on variable voltage the PWM connection is not used at all.
PWM fans run on contanat 12v volt with no PWM signal .. same as a variable voltage fan at full load. Then just vary the voltage to change speed.
 
#10 ·
These will not run without this wire connected to power. Also, while labeled PWM, these fans actually use varying voltage along a 4th wire to control them, not a PWM signal. Weird fans they are.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Sorry, but to clarify you are saying the VM/PWM is for PWM control signal. But if not using PWM to run 12v power to this connection?
Mostly, but these fans cannot run off of a normal pwm signal.

Connect the PWM labeled wire to the + wire and call it a 3-pin fan. Works for me, fully variable speed.
 
#11 ·
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Originally Posted by MasakakiKairi View Post

These will not run without this wire connected to power. Also, while labeled PWM, these fans actually use varying voltage along a 4th wire to control them, not a PWM signal. Weird fans they are.
Mostly, but these fans cannot run off of a normal pwm signal.

Connect the PWM labeled wire to the + wire and call it a 3-pin fan. Works for me, fully variable speed.
Correct-

The PWM wire does not work the same way a standard yellow PWM wire on most fans/PWM header pin on mobo's.

I had to sacrifice one but I did get it to work, thank you. Hopefully this thread will save anyone from sacrificing more of these cute fans in the future to find out how to power them ;)

PS- These are loud as ****.
 
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